"Yes... you are correct... the double mind comes after we are declared sons... or maybe it is just OUR AWARENESS of our double mindedness that comes after our epiphany in Jesus? We may have always been double minded, AND JUST NOT REALIZED IT!" Quote
Yes, I agree, we just functioned as the natural man before being awakened in God, living without an awareness of the difference of the mind of the spirit from the mind of the flesh.
Everything about us is in 2's in this realm......we have 2 arms, 2 legs, 2 eyes, 2 ears, 2 distinct sides of our brain......because everything about us was designed to testify that we are where both realms meet....where heaven and earth comes together.
"Duality and the world go hand in hand..because it takes two hands to climb the ladder of consciousness. It takes two feet to walk the path of righteousness. It takes two eyes to be able to have depth perception lest we dash our foot against a stone.
Who created duality? Was it not God who separated the light from the darkness? Was it not God who put two trees in the garden (our mind).....all a part of the will and purpose of God in the training and outfitting of a grown up Son. Or we can instead play "dress up" and pretend that we already know everything that God knows and can do everything that God can do in the here and now.
Yes, we have to know how to go within to that Most Holy Place of Oneness (the spirit) where all things are finished and at rest, but we have to know how to bring that truth out, first into Our Holy Place (our soul or mind) and then outside into the field of this world where the work of our Father is done. Didn't Jesus the Shepherd go and seek the lost sheep. How will we find them in the Most Holy Place if they are in the outer court yard?
Yes, this world of duality will surely pass away, but I AM still in the world to save (awaken) them.
If Jesus believed as some do that this world isn't real, just an illusion to be dismissed nor considered, then why would he have bothered healing bodies that weren't really ill? Why feed bread to the hungry who just imagine that they are hungry? After all they don't have any real bodies to feed.
Obviously Jesus believed they were real and treated them as so....God meets us where we are. So perhaps it would be better to think of this world as a lower world that is serving a purpose in the plan of God.
Duality is not an enemy, but a tool...like a ladder that consciousness uses to climb." And as we ascend this ladder, we don't take the rung that we just left with us, its already served its purpose, but we leave it for the next guy coming along.
It's possible to try and cut short or truncate anothers steps by insisting they be where we are on the ladder but perhaps they haven't yet made all the steps in consciousness to arrive there yet......they may have to yet have a little more room made in their inn in order to birth higher truths.
Jesus said:
"My prayer is that you not take them out of the world, but protect them from the evil one."
"In the world you shall tribulation, but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world."
Monday, November 21, 2011
Monday, November 07, 2011
The Making of a MAN
"Let us make man in Our image and likeness and let them have dominion...."
God is not making God.
God is making a MAN.
I believe the brother is right when he says the words in Gen 1 and 2 are prophetic.
I think where we fall into division is we think that the natural man, the first man is the one that God was speaking of when he declared this. The natural man was a step in the process of the making of a God Man, the Second Man, the Lord from heaven. He was not the finished product and I agree with one that said it is only a temporary change of clothing. It is our tabernacle of David, our temporary movable dwelling, but we have a Temple of Solomon, our Promised Land where the glory of the sun glinted upon the outer walls of this gold covered dwelling and could be seen afar, and upon its dedication the glory so filled this temple that no 'man' - that's man with a little 'm' could stand because the MAN, that's man with a big 'M" was now filling the temple.
And yes, of course, God said in Gen. that what he created was good! He calls those things that are not as though they are!....are not what?....are not yet manifested in this realm.....because in the realm of the Eternal all things coexist simultaneously but in this realm they are "testified of in due time".
But we are bringing the ordinances, and the oracles of God into the Earth through God's MAN. Jesus was the express image of the invisible God. God is God whether he is ex-pressed or not, but when he wishes to reveal his Invisible Self, he needs a vehicle for ex-pression. And that was his purpose in making a MAN.
We know that natural man has been more of a caricature of God than an exact image of the Father. So we are still a work of God's Art in progress.
Just as Jesus our Pattern demonstrated. He was made perfect by the things he suffered. He grew in grace and knowledge. We live and move and have our being in Him (heaven) and He lives and moves and has his being in Us (Earth).
But I love the scripture that says, "While beholding him, we are made into his same image from glory to glory."....or from one understanding to another. Because Jesus came to show us what we are and what we can become, so, in beholding him I am looking at myself as a glorified son. So I do hear where those who declare they are finished and need no perfecting are coming from. When I behold him I am looking at my future self and declaring him glorious and beautiful. I don't think we can build our house aright without looking at the blueprint and following the pattern shown us in the "Mount". And you know we were instructed to be careful how we build.
It requires two or three witnesses for every word to be establised. Some are satisfied with just spirit and soul - they don't see that God still needs a Body in which to manifest as the third witness.
We are to see that we do not forsake the assembling of ourselves together.......our spirit, soul and body.
1. Spirit (heavens)
2. Soul (the bridge or interface between spirit and body, "Be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind (Soul)...our mind, will, emotions, and desire aligned with spirit provides streets of gold, a highway of wholeness for the spirit to walk into our Earth)
3. Body (earth)
Love and Grace to all,
Karen
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I know that we each hear the other from where we are in consciousness and wherever we each are is the only place we can be until we are moved into another glory. I am thankful for every level of glory that has been revealed in me. Remember when Paul said, "that it pleased the Father to reaveal his son in me". Well, it could not have been revealed in him if it wasn't there all the time. Our immortal, perfect self, called the Christ was there all the time, but I believe it was just still wrapped in the grave clothes of our old understandings until the word, "loose him and let him go" was inacted in our lives. \o/
Not long ago this understanding was given me:
I am/ we are first a child of God by CREATION.
But we are a mature God by FORMATION.
Everybody is a child of God, but not all are behaving as mature Gods. That is where Jesus our Pattern comes in. It calls him our Forerunner in Hebrews. That means we have had the path marked out well for us. We, too, have had to take up our cross and follow on to become what we already are. One of those enigmas again.
Paul, remarked that "he was travailing in birth until Christ was FORMED in them." And it is always the feminine that takes the seed and forms it for the man. Without having "the eyes of our understanding enlightened" or without having our mind penetrated by the spirit word or the man, we cannot FORM the CHRIST a body in which to manifest his nature, or we cannot be the express image of the invisible God.
Creative formation to all you lords,
Karen
God is not making God.
God is making a MAN.
I believe the brother is right when he says the words in Gen 1 and 2 are prophetic.
I think where we fall into division is we think that the natural man, the first man is the one that God was speaking of when he declared this. The natural man was a step in the process of the making of a God Man, the Second Man, the Lord from heaven. He was not the finished product and I agree with one that said it is only a temporary change of clothing. It is our tabernacle of David, our temporary movable dwelling, but we have a Temple of Solomon, our Promised Land where the glory of the sun glinted upon the outer walls of this gold covered dwelling and could be seen afar, and upon its dedication the glory so filled this temple that no 'man' - that's man with a little 'm' could stand because the MAN, that's man with a big 'M" was now filling the temple.
And yes, of course, God said in Gen. that what he created was good! He calls those things that are not as though they are!....are not what?....are not yet manifested in this realm.....because in the realm of the Eternal all things coexist simultaneously but in this realm they are "testified of in due time".
But we are bringing the ordinances, and the oracles of God into the Earth through God's MAN. Jesus was the express image of the invisible God. God is God whether he is ex-pressed or not, but when he wishes to reveal his Invisible Self, he needs a vehicle for ex-pression. And that was his purpose in making a MAN.
We know that natural man has been more of a caricature of God than an exact image of the Father. So we are still a work of God's Art in progress.
Just as Jesus our Pattern demonstrated. He was made perfect by the things he suffered. He grew in grace and knowledge. We live and move and have our being in Him (heaven) and He lives and moves and has his being in Us (Earth).
But I love the scripture that says, "While beholding him, we are made into his same image from glory to glory."....or from one understanding to another. Because Jesus came to show us what we are and what we can become, so, in beholding him I am looking at myself as a glorified son. So I do hear where those who declare they are finished and need no perfecting are coming from. When I behold him I am looking at my future self and declaring him glorious and beautiful. I don't think we can build our house aright without looking at the blueprint and following the pattern shown us in the "Mount". And you know we were instructed to be careful how we build.
It requires two or three witnesses for every word to be establised. Some are satisfied with just spirit and soul - they don't see that God still needs a Body in which to manifest as the third witness.
We are to see that we do not forsake the assembling of ourselves together.......our spirit, soul and body.
1. Spirit (heavens)
2. Soul (the bridge or interface between spirit and body, "Be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind (Soul)...our mind, will, emotions, and desire aligned with spirit provides streets of gold, a highway of wholeness for the spirit to walk into our Earth)
3. Body (earth)
Love and Grace to all,
Karen
***********************************************************************************
I know that we each hear the other from where we are in consciousness and wherever we each are is the only place we can be until we are moved into another glory. I am thankful for every level of glory that has been revealed in me. Remember when Paul said, "that it pleased the Father to reaveal his son in me". Well, it could not have been revealed in him if it wasn't there all the time. Our immortal, perfect self, called the Christ was there all the time, but I believe it was just still wrapped in the grave clothes of our old understandings until the word, "loose him and let him go" was inacted in our lives. \o/
Not long ago this understanding was given me:
I am/ we are first a child of God by CREATION.
But we are a mature God by FORMATION.
Everybody is a child of God, but not all are behaving as mature Gods. That is where Jesus our Pattern comes in. It calls him our Forerunner in Hebrews. That means we have had the path marked out well for us. We, too, have had to take up our cross and follow on to become what we already are. One of those enigmas again.
Paul, remarked that "he was travailing in birth until Christ was FORMED in them." And it is always the feminine that takes the seed and forms it for the man. Without having "the eyes of our understanding enlightened" or without having our mind penetrated by the spirit word or the man, we cannot FORM the CHRIST a body in which to manifest his nature, or we cannot be the express image of the invisible God.
Creative formation to all you lords,
Karen
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