by Garrison R. Russell
From SonPlacing
book available from www.sonplace.com
and from Amazon.com
The angelic realms will hear of the birth and arrive to honor God's Sons. All creation will marvel at the grandeur of God's wisdom, made alive in his offspring. The Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising. All will exalt at their presence, and be washed in the living flow. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Jarred from joyous reunion by the sudden blast from a battle horn, the din will subside and these new commanders of galaxies will convene in divine congress. This cartel of ruling divinity is called the Body of Christ. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
The Body of Christ is composed of the glorified firstborn Sons of God, the firstfruits of Israel. Ye are come unto mount Sion...to the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, and to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant.
Jesus will be chairman of this heavenly group, and the members themselves are his brothers. So He fixes the time for the birth of her child [Jesus], and He will restore with the Children of Israel the rest of His brothers!...They rest, when tired, at the bounds of the earth. Michah 5:1-3 (Fenton) All the brothers of Jesus will share his destiny, for they all will have been born by the same process. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and set down with my Father in his throne.
Assembled into this divine federation, the reins of creation will be transferred to them. Unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. They will be given the heavens and the earth. All the realms of creation will be placed in their care. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Every facet of time, space, power, good, evil, life, and death, they will receive as a personal possession. Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
Then turning their attention to the crisis on earth, they will invade from the heavenly realms. Intense as a phalanx of kings, they will pass through the plasmatic veil that restrains creation, and enter the realm of flesh. In a moment they will appear on the earth, as warriors emerging from a shimmering mirage. Their hearts will pulse with righteousness and their hands will be laden for war. And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Fathers name written in their foreheads.
This group of divine beings is the only answer to earth's problems. They have been ordained of God as the power that shall end the captivity of evil that now enslaves the world. Behold the Lord God shall come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him; behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him. These are unyielding sovereigns, the appointed ruler of all things. With a mission of dread purpose they will arrive to cleanse the earth. I have commanded my sanctified ones, I have also called my mighty ones for mine anger.
In stealth they will be suddenly present, as gentle as fog, as piercing as truth, as lethal as God himself. They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the Lord, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land. Howl ye, for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty. Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt.
All flesh shall sense their arrival, and the terrors of men will turn inward. Saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau, and the kingdom shall be the Lord's.
Entering this world of evil, as alighting near a funnel cloud, the Sons of God, as insurgents, will appear on the earth. It will be a time when few looked for them. It will be a day when they were not expected. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Abruptly and without warning the Sons of God will arrive, in the midst of darkness, as furious lightning on a black and stormy night. They will come as the avengers of blood, the kinsman-redeemers of Adam. They come with a mission to liberate, and to claim the blood debt of their clan. For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth. As an army from the the rising sun they will redress the grievance of Eden. The Lord sends your brave army from Zion; charge up to the breast of your foes! Your Forces are ready to-day, your Army in beautiful pomp, More than dew-drops that come from the breast of the Dawn! Psalms 110:2,3 (Fenton)
With their weapons at the ready the Sons will cry against the powers of evil, and demand the release of mankind. The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord hath anointed me...to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of veneance of our God. They will assemble in battle array, with tumult and power, speaking war to the enemies of God.
The enemies of God are fear, doubt, disbelief, self-centeredness, rebellion, and idolatry. These are to be eradicated from the earth.
Monday, December 07, 2009
The First Resurrection (part 2)
by Garrison R. Russell
from SonPlacing
Arriving at the counsel hall of the ages, these individuals will meet their Father face to face. They will learn who they are. As the magnitude of Sonship washes over their spirit, they will be transformed into their Father's likeness.
Just imagine. Webs of intense light will begin to arc through their hair, as so many colored bursts of electric lace. As the curling flashes replicate, they will slowly form into shimmering rings. Encircling each participant, these celestial adorments roll slowly downward, passing over each body from head to foot, as a ripple of blue-green iridescence.
Astonished, they will peer into their hands and chest, suddenly made translucent with incandescent power. A shuddering wave will run through their bones. Their outer forms will begin to dissolve, coalescing inward, shrinking until each body is reduced to a tiny spot, brighter than the sun.
As each becomes an infinitesimal point, much smaller than an electron, from each will explode all the power of creation, all the stars that were ever made. The galactic current of time will swerve to avoid these beings, swirling into a fractal stream and pooling to await their bidding. Suddenly they will emerge in another realm, as babes ejected from a womb.
In an instant these Sons will burst into the resplendence of autonomous, self-pertetuating life. At once, they will find themselves small enough to enter an atom, and large enough to put the universe in their pocket. That they may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us. They will be clothed with the traits of divinity, a bequest that cannot be reversed. Suddenly they will understand. All things will become open and known. The secrets of the universe will become clear as a child's puzzle. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
From these rites of passage, swift and sure, these newly manifest Sons will emerge as glorified, life-giving creators of flesh and spirit. The Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Yahweh their Father will be there. Jesus, their oldest brother and captain, will welcome them with a knowing joy. One by one they will present them to the fellowship of their brethren. I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.
Then joining with their new comrades, they will fall into the revelry of ecstatic reunion. As soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. Adam, Elijah, and Peter will roar with elation. Eve, Rachel, and Ruth will burst into musical laughter. Noah and Abraham will excitedly rehearse the marvels of their experience. Joseph and Benjamain will weep with joyful gratitude. All will flow with an explosive energy of euphoric ebullience that will peal in waves past the bounds of creation. And they sung as it were a new song before the throne...and no man could learn that song by the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
They will all be changed. No longer limited by gender or form, they will have vibrant bodies of light which obey their every whim. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. Each will be free, an individual without restraint, clad with the brillance of life. For one star differeth from another star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead.
All will enter a timeless existence, without beginning and without end. The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou aret a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek. They will exude the faultless character of deity. In their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God. And each will be known by a new name, which cannot be understood, slandered, or even spoken, by those outside that gathering. The Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.
from SonPlacing
Arriving at the counsel hall of the ages, these individuals will meet their Father face to face. They will learn who they are. As the magnitude of Sonship washes over their spirit, they will be transformed into their Father's likeness.
Just imagine. Webs of intense light will begin to arc through their hair, as so many colored bursts of electric lace. As the curling flashes replicate, they will slowly form into shimmering rings. Encircling each participant, these celestial adorments roll slowly downward, passing over each body from head to foot, as a ripple of blue-green iridescence.
Astonished, they will peer into their hands and chest, suddenly made translucent with incandescent power. A shuddering wave will run through their bones. Their outer forms will begin to dissolve, coalescing inward, shrinking until each body is reduced to a tiny spot, brighter than the sun.
As each becomes an infinitesimal point, much smaller than an electron, from each will explode all the power of creation, all the stars that were ever made. The galactic current of time will swerve to avoid these beings, swirling into a fractal stream and pooling to await their bidding. Suddenly they will emerge in another realm, as babes ejected from a womb.
In an instant these Sons will burst into the resplendence of autonomous, self-pertetuating life. At once, they will find themselves small enough to enter an atom, and large enough to put the universe in their pocket. That they may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us. They will be clothed with the traits of divinity, a bequest that cannot be reversed. Suddenly they will understand. All things will become open and known. The secrets of the universe will become clear as a child's puzzle. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
From these rites of passage, swift and sure, these newly manifest Sons will emerge as glorified, life-giving creators of flesh and spirit. The Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Yahweh their Father will be there. Jesus, their oldest brother and captain, will welcome them with a knowing joy. One by one they will present them to the fellowship of their brethren. I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.
Then joining with their new comrades, they will fall into the revelry of ecstatic reunion. As soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. Adam, Elijah, and Peter will roar with elation. Eve, Rachel, and Ruth will burst into musical laughter. Noah and Abraham will excitedly rehearse the marvels of their experience. Joseph and Benjamain will weep with joyful gratitude. All will flow with an explosive energy of euphoric ebullience that will peal in waves past the bounds of creation. And they sung as it were a new song before the throne...and no man could learn that song by the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
They will all be changed. No longer limited by gender or form, they will have vibrant bodies of light which obey their every whim. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. Each will be free, an individual without restraint, clad with the brillance of life. For one star differeth from another star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead.
All will enter a timeless existence, without beginning and without end. The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou aret a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek. They will exude the faultless character of deity. In their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God. And each will be known by a new name, which cannot be understood, slandered, or even spoken, by those outside that gathering. The Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.
The First Resurrection (part 1)
by Garrison R. Russell
from SonPlacing
book available from www.sonplace.com
& from Amazon.com
Six thousand years after the fall of Adam, the firstborn Sons of God will arise from earthly mortality. This celestial event will comprise the glorification of a small group from the Adamic race. This is the first resurrection. AFTER SIX DAYS Jesus taketh with him Peter, James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.
In any crop, some individual plants reach their maturity well before the general harvest. These are called the "firstfruits." So also with the spirits of men. Some will reach their maturity and be readied for spirit birth, long before the rest. These will be raised to immortal splendor at the start of the Millennium, one-thousand years before the resurrection of the sleepy multitudes. The rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
God will assemble these firstfruits from the halls of time and gather them unto himself. The firstfruits of thy land thou shal bring into the house of the Lord thy God. They will be lifted out of the created realm, far beyond the reach of flesh or created spirit. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. They are destined for the Begotten Realm - that divine state of being that has thus far been occupied by Yahweh and Jesus alone. Thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion.
After the seven seals of Revelation, and at the blast of the seventh trumpet, the secret purpose of God will be complete. In the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished. This mystery is the Body of Christ. It is the anointing of "Christ", perfected in many individual members. The mystery of God, Christ, in whom are all the hidden treasures of the wisdom and knowledge. Col. 2:2,3 (Wuest)
Very soon now, on a day much like today, those who have ratified the New Covenant of sacrifice within their own spirits, will be collected from the ages. Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice. Those whose lives have been shipwrecked upon the purposes of God, will be assembled in divine counsel. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
These are the firstfruits of the Adamic race, and they will be summoned to the first resurrection. I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God...and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. These Overcomers will be raised into faultless perfection - this is the act of spirit birth. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
At the sound of the seventh trumpet, those who have completed their spiritual gestation upon the earth will be raised from the dead and changed in the atoms. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump; for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
These illustrious travelers will step into another dimension and be transformed into divine beings. This is the first resurrection, and those who are called to it will ascend to the helm of creation. And the seventh angel sounded, and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Arriving at the counsel hall of the ages, these individual will meet their Father face to face. They go from strength to strength, every one of them in Zion appeareth before God. There they will learn who they are. Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee. As the magnitude of Sonship washes over their spirit, they will be transformed into their Father's likeness. We know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
from SonPlacing
book available from www.sonplace.com
& from Amazon.com
Six thousand years after the fall of Adam, the firstborn Sons of God will arise from earthly mortality. This celestial event will comprise the glorification of a small group from the Adamic race. This is the first resurrection. AFTER SIX DAYS Jesus taketh with him Peter, James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.
In any crop, some individual plants reach their maturity well before the general harvest. These are called the "firstfruits." So also with the spirits of men. Some will reach their maturity and be readied for spirit birth, long before the rest. These will be raised to immortal splendor at the start of the Millennium, one-thousand years before the resurrection of the sleepy multitudes. The rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
God will assemble these firstfruits from the halls of time and gather them unto himself. The firstfruits of thy land thou shal bring into the house of the Lord thy God. They will be lifted out of the created realm, far beyond the reach of flesh or created spirit. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. They are destined for the Begotten Realm - that divine state of being that has thus far been occupied by Yahweh and Jesus alone. Thou, O tower of the flock, the strong hold of the daughter of Zion, unto thee shall it come, even the first dominion.
After the seven seals of Revelation, and at the blast of the seventh trumpet, the secret purpose of God will be complete. In the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished. This mystery is the Body of Christ. It is the anointing of "Christ", perfected in many individual members. The mystery of God, Christ, in whom are all the hidden treasures of the wisdom and knowledge. Col. 2:2,3 (Wuest)
Very soon now, on a day much like today, those who have ratified the New Covenant of sacrifice within their own spirits, will be collected from the ages. Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice. Those whose lives have been shipwrecked upon the purposes of God, will be assembled in divine counsel. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
These are the firstfruits of the Adamic race, and they will be summoned to the first resurrection. I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God...and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. These Overcomers will be raised into faultless perfection - this is the act of spirit birth. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
At the sound of the seventh trumpet, those who have completed their spiritual gestation upon the earth will be raised from the dead and changed in the atoms. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump; for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
These illustrious travelers will step into another dimension and be transformed into divine beings. This is the first resurrection, and those who are called to it will ascend to the helm of creation. And the seventh angel sounded, and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Arriving at the counsel hall of the ages, these individual will meet their Father face to face. They go from strength to strength, every one of them in Zion appeareth before God. There they will learn who they are. Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee. As the magnitude of Sonship washes over their spirit, they will be transformed into their Father's likeness. We know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
Sunday, December 06, 2009
The Secret Sons
by Garrison R. Russell
from SonPlacing
"God is timeless spirit being. He is the source of all wisdom, knowledge, power. His existence is self-sustaining and without limitation. And so also are his Sons. For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself.
Those who become the Sons of God are conceived from the spiritual ancestry of God. They are born from his genetics. They will develop into what he is. The glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one. They will no longer be human. (Adamlike)They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. They will become timeless spirit beings. Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life. They will become reactors of radiant life. By your endurance shall ye gain your lives for a possession. Luke 21:19 (Emphasized) As the offspring of God they will stand in his presence, and see his face, and possess his glory. That ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
These Sons will become custodians of all that can be known. Then shall I know even as also I am known. They will hold the scepter of all authority. Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. They will be limited by nothing, save the bonds of unalterable paternal love. For I do always those thins that please him. These are the Secret Sons, and they are fast becoming a reality. Because as He Himself is, we also shall be, in that world. 1 John 4:17 (Fenton)
[The Secret Sons: For six thousand years the Adamic race has been beseiged by carnal addiction, spiritual deception, and political oppression. The vast multitudes of men have succumbed to these forces and have been exploited as helpless chattel.
But all through the misty centuries of tumultuous darkness, there has been another, smaller, secret class of individuals. Some of earth's sojourners, a very few, have escaped their captors. These have slid the chains from their spirits and raised up from the mire to behold the brilliant light of another realm. Even so at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
These hungry individuals yearned for something more than the soon tarnished glitter of mortal life. While they lived on the earth, they hoped to find some single permanent treasure amongst the heaps of temporal tinsel. With the zeal of the half-starved, these sought for and found the secret plan of God.
They discovered that by the death and rising of Jesus Christ, God perfected a resurrected spirit that could be planted as a seed into the hearts of men. When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. They learned that if this seed should become bonded to their own spirit, a new child would be formed. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God. This child is an entirely new entity, a new spirit being. If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Those who uncovered this secret discerned that this new spirit child is the offspring of its Father - it is a Son of God. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God. This spirit Son is developed in the travails of earth, but it has an otherworldy existence, with a destiny far beyond the created realm. And why did God make you two one? Because He sought a godly offspring from your union. Malachi 2:15. (Amplified)
Finding this Son within them, they perceived that though it begins in embryonic form, this Son is a sibling to Jesus Christ. For both he that sanctifieth [Jesus] and they who are sanctified [you] are all of one [God]: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren. And if this stripling spirit within them was brought to maturity, he would stand to inherit all the same substance that Jesus Christ inherited. This is all the wealth of divinity. If chidren, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ.
Woven through the ages as a thread through a garment have been a few individuals who have set out on this path to Sonship. These came into possession of the seed of life, and then began their journey by avoidng the clutches of Organized Religion.
Through diligence these found the hidden promises of God and finally looked into the spirit realm, as a spy peers over a wall. Having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were stranger and pilgrims on the earth."
from SonPlacing
"God is timeless spirit being. He is the source of all wisdom, knowledge, power. His existence is self-sustaining and without limitation. And so also are his Sons. For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself.
Those who become the Sons of God are conceived from the spiritual ancestry of God. They are born from his genetics. They will develop into what he is. The glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one. They will no longer be human. (Adamlike)They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. They will become timeless spirit beings. Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life. They will become reactors of radiant life. By your endurance shall ye gain your lives for a possession. Luke 21:19 (Emphasized) As the offspring of God they will stand in his presence, and see his face, and possess his glory. That ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.
These Sons will become custodians of all that can be known. Then shall I know even as also I am known. They will hold the scepter of all authority. Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. They will be limited by nothing, save the bonds of unalterable paternal love. For I do always those thins that please him. These are the Secret Sons, and they are fast becoming a reality. Because as He Himself is, we also shall be, in that world. 1 John 4:17 (Fenton)
[The Secret Sons: For six thousand years the Adamic race has been beseiged by carnal addiction, spiritual deception, and political oppression. The vast multitudes of men have succumbed to these forces and have been exploited as helpless chattel.
But all through the misty centuries of tumultuous darkness, there has been another, smaller, secret class of individuals. Some of earth's sojourners, a very few, have escaped their captors. These have slid the chains from their spirits and raised up from the mire to behold the brilliant light of another realm. Even so at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
These hungry individuals yearned for something more than the soon tarnished glitter of mortal life. While they lived on the earth, they hoped to find some single permanent treasure amongst the heaps of temporal tinsel. With the zeal of the half-starved, these sought for and found the secret plan of God.
They discovered that by the death and rising of Jesus Christ, God perfected a resurrected spirit that could be planted as a seed into the hearts of men. When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. They learned that if this seed should become bonded to their own spirit, a new child would be formed. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God. This child is an entirely new entity, a new spirit being. If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Those who uncovered this secret discerned that this new spirit child is the offspring of its Father - it is a Son of God. As many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God. This spirit Son is developed in the travails of earth, but it has an otherworldy existence, with a destiny far beyond the created realm. And why did God make you two one? Because He sought a godly offspring from your union. Malachi 2:15. (Amplified)
Finding this Son within them, they perceived that though it begins in embryonic form, this Son is a sibling to Jesus Christ. For both he that sanctifieth [Jesus] and they who are sanctified [you] are all of one [God]: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren. And if this stripling spirit within them was brought to maturity, he would stand to inherit all the same substance that Jesus Christ inherited. This is all the wealth of divinity. If chidren, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ.
Woven through the ages as a thread through a garment have been a few individuals who have set out on this path to Sonship. These came into possession of the seed of life, and then began their journey by avoidng the clutches of Organized Religion.
Through diligence these found the hidden promises of God and finally looked into the spirit realm, as a spy peers over a wall. Having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were stranger and pilgrims on the earth."
315 Old Testament Prophecies Fulfilled By Christ
315 Old Testament Prophecies Fulfilled By Christ
Jesus quoted from or referenced 24 books of the Old Testament in his ministry, and that is only from the writings that have been preserved for us in our present bible. Although, he did not quote from all of them, he did make reference to the three divisions of the Law, the Prophets and the Psalms which contained all. In his temptation in the wilderness, his rebuttal to the devil was "It is written".
Many are lining up in this day and volunteering for pallbearer detail of the written word. Throughout history the Old and the New Testament have shown themselves to be reliable and true; the truth contained in them has risen up to outlive all its pallbearers....its truth, I'm afraid, will bury us before we succeed in burying it.
Until "The Living Word", the Author, decodes its spiritually encrypted messages to us we just do not see beyond the letter or literalness of its words.
Quote:
"Many people today do not believe in the authority of the Old Testament as Scripture. However, Jesus had some quite different things to say regarding the Old Testament. Here is a brief list of some of what Jesus taught about the Old Testament:
1.Source of Authority
A.When confronted by Satan, Jesus appealed to the Old Testament as a source of authority by stating, "It is written," (Matt. 4:4, 7, 10).
2.Imperishability
A."For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished," (NASB, Matt. 5:18).
3.Unbreakability
A."The Scripture cannot be broken," (NASB, Jn. 10:35).
4.Source of Doctrinal Authority
A.Jesus appealed to Scripture when correcting false doctrine stating, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God," (NASB, Matt. 22:29).
5.Truthfulness
A."Your word is truth," (NASB, Jn. 17:17).
6.Historical Reliability
A.Jesus affirmed the historical existence of Jonah (Matt. 12:40), Noah (Matt. 24:37-38), and Adam and Eve (Matt. 19:4-6).
7.Scientific Reliability
A.Jesus affirmed that God created the world (Mk. 13:19; cf. Matt. 19:4).
8.Old Testament Canonicity
A.Jesus made reference to the Law and Prophets as a unit (Matt. 5:17).
B.Jesus explained the Scriptures, "Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures," (NASB, Luke 24:27).
C.Jesus referred to the entire Canon by mentioning all the prophets from Abel (from Genesis, the first book and first martyr) to Zechariah (Chronicles, the last book, and the last martyr) (Matt. 23:35).
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The following are 315 prophecies that Jesus fulfilled that were written of him....I'm sure many of these were likely some that were expounded upon to the two disciples on the road to Emmaus as they walked with the resurrected Jesus and found their hearts set afire as the very fulfillment of these prophecies ministered intimately to them.
1. Gen. 3:15.....Seed of a woman (virgin birth).....Luke 1:35, Mt 1:18-20
2. Gen. 3:15.....He will bruise Satan's head.....Heb. 2:14, 1 Jn. 3:18
3. Gen. 5:24....The bodily ascension to heaven illustrated....Mk. 6:19
4. Gen. 9:26,27...The God of Shem will be the Son of Shem...Lu. 3:36
5. Gen. 12:3...As Abraham's seed, will bless all nations.(Gentiles included)..Acts. 3:25,26
6. Gen. 12:7...The Promise made to Abraham's Seed...Gal. 3:16
7. Gen. 14:18...A priest after Melchizedek...Heb. 6:20
8. Gen. 14:18........A King also........Heb. 7:2
9. Gen. 14:18...The Last Supper foreshadowed...Mt. 26:26-29
10. Gen. 17:19.......The Seed of Isaac.......Rom. 9:7
11. Gen. 22:8...The Lamb of God promised...Jn. 1:29
12. Gen. 22:18...As Isaac's seed, will bless all nations...Gal. 3:16
13. Gen.26:2-5..The Seed of Isaac promised as the Redeemer..Heb.11:18
14. Gen. 49:10...The time of His coming...Lu. 2:1-7; Gal. 4:4
15. Gen. 49:10.......The Seed of Judah.......Lu. 3:33
16. Gen. 49:10......Called Shiloh (or One Sent)......Jn. 17:3
17. Gen. 49:10...To come before Judah lost identity...Jn. 11:47-52
18. Gen. 49:10...To Him shall the obedience of the people be...Jn. 10:16
19. Ex. 3:13,14........The Great "I Am".......Jn. 4:26
20. Ex. 12:5...A Lamb without blemish...1 Pet. 1:19
21. Ex. 12:13...The blood of the Lamb saves from wrath...Rom. 5:8
22. Ex. 12:21-27...Christ is our Passover...1 Cor. 5;7
23. Ex. 12:46...Not a bone of the Lamb to be broken...Jn. 19:31-36
24. Ex. 15:2...His exaltation predicted as Yeshua...Acts 7:55,56
25. Ex. 15:11...His Character-Holiness...Luke 1:35; Acts 4:27
26. Ex. 17:6...The Spiritual Rock of Israel...1 Cor. 10;4
27. Ex. 33:19...His Character-Merciful...Lu. 1:72
28. Lev.14:11..The leper cleansed-Sign to priesthood..Lu.5:12-14; Acts 6:7
29. Lev.16:15-17...Prefigures Christ's once-for-all death...Heb. 9:7-14
30. Lev.16:27...Suffering outside the Camp...Mt. 27:33; Heb. 13:11, 12
31. Lev.17:11...The Blood-the life of the flesh...Mt. 26;28; Mk. 10:45
32. Lev.17:11...It is the blood that makes atonement...1 Jn. 3:14-18
33. Lev.23:36-37...The Drink-offering: "If any man thirst." ..Jn. 19:31-36
34. Num. 9:12...Not a bone of Him broken...John 19:31-36
35. Num. 21:9...The serpent on a pole-Christ lifted up...Jn. 3:14-18
36. Num. 24:17...Time: "I shall see him, but not now."...Gal. 4:4
37. Deut. 18:15..."This is of a truth that prophet."...Jn. 6:14
38. Deut. 18:15-16..."Had ye believed Moses, ye would believe me."...Jn. 5:45-47
39. Deut. 18:18...Sent by the Father to speak His word...Jn. 8:28, 29
40. Deut. 18:19...Whoever will not hear must bear his sin...Jn. 12:15,
41. Deut. 21:23...Cursed is he that hangs on a tree...Gal. 3:10-13
42. Ruth 4:4-9...Christ, our kinsman, has redeemed us...Eph. 1:3-7
43. 1 Sam. 2:10...Shall be an anointed King to the Lord...Mt. 28:18; Jn. 12:15
44. 2 Sam. 7:12...David's Seed...Mt. 1:1
45. 2 Sam. 7:14a...The Son of God... Lu. 1:32
46. 2 Sam. 7:16...David's house established forever...Lu. 3:31; Rev. 22:162
47. Ki. 2:11...The bodily ascension to heaven illustrated...Lu. 24:51
48. 1 Chr. 17:11...David's Seed...Mt. 1:1; 9:27
49. 1 Chr. 17:12, 13a...To reign on David's throne forever...Lu. 1:32, 33
50. 1 Chr. 17:13a..."I will be His Father, He...my Son."...Heb. 1:5
51. Job 19:23-27...The Resurrection predicted...Jn. 5:24-29
52. Psa. 2:1-3...The enmity of kings foreordained...Acts 4:25-28
53. Psa. 2:2...To own the title, Anointed (Christ)...Acts 2:36
54. Ps. 2:6...His Character-Holiness...Jn. 8:46; Rev. 3:7
55. Ps. 2:6...To own the title King...Mt. 2:2
56. Ps. 2:7...Declared the Beloved Son...Mt. 3;17
57. Psa. 2:7, 8...The Crucifixion and Resurrection intimated...Acts 13:29-33
58. Psa. 2:12...Life comes through faith in Him...Jn. 20:31
59. Psa. 8:2...The mouths of babes perfect His praise...Mt. 21:16
60. Psa. 8:5, 6...His humiliation and exaltation...Lu. 24:50-53; 1 Cor. 15:27
61. Psa. 16:10...Was not to see corruption...Acts 2:31
62. Psa. 16:9-11...Was to arise from the dead...Jn. 20:9
63. Psa. 17;15...The resurrection predicted...Lu. 24:6
64. Psa. 22:1...Forsaken because of sins of others...2 Cor. 5:21
65. Psa. 22:1...Words spoken from Calvary, "My God..." Mk. 15:34
66. Psa. 22:2...Darkness upon Calvary...Mt. 27:45
67. Psa. 22:7...They shoot out the lip and shake the head...Mt. 27:39
68. Psa. 22:8.." He trusted in God, let Him deliver Him "...Mt. 27:43
69. Psa. 22:9......Born the Saviour......Lu. 2:7
70. Psa. 22:14...Died of a broken (ruptured) heart...Jn. 19:34
71. Psa. 22:14,15...Suffered agony on Calvary...Mk. 15:34-37
72. Psa. 22:15........He thirsted........Jn. 19:28
73. Psa. 22:16...They pierced His hands and His feet....Jn. 19:34,37;20:27
74. Psa. 22:17,18...Stripped Him before the stares of men...Lu. 23:34,35
75. Psa. 22:18.....They parted His garments.....Jn. 19:23,24
76. Psa. 22:20,21...He committed Himself to God...Lu.23:46
77. Psa. 22:20,21..Satanic power bruising the Redeemer's heel..Heb. 2:14
78. Psa. 22:22.....His Resurrection declared.....Jn. 20:17
79. Psa. 22:27...He shall be the governor of the nations...Col 1:16
80. Psa. 22:31......"It is finished"......Jn. 19:30
81. Psa. 23:1...."I am the Good Shepherd"....Jn. 10:11
82. Psa. 24:3......His exaltation predicted......Acts 1:11; Phil. 2:9
83. Psa. 30:3......His resurrection predicted......Acts 2:32
84. Psa. 31:5..."Into thy hands I commit my spirit"...Lu. 23:46
85. Psa. 31:11...His acquaintances fled from Him...Mk. 14:50
86. Psa. 31:13...They took counsel to put Him to death...Jn. 11:53
87. Psa. 31:14,15..." He trusted in God, let Him deliver him"...Mt. 27:43
88. Psa. 34:20.....Not a bone of Him broken.....Jn 19:31-36
89. Psa. 35:11....False witnesses rose up against Him....Mt. 26:59
90. Psa. 35:19...He was hated without a cause...Jn. 15:25
91. Psa. 38:11.....His friends stood afar off.....Lu. 23:49
92. Psa. 40:2-5...The joy of His resurrection predicted...Jn. 20:20
93. Psa. 40:6-8....His delight-the will of the Father....Jn. 4:34
94. Psa. 40:9....He was to preach the Righteousness in Israel....Mt. 4:17
95. Psa. 40:14...Confronted by adversaries in the Garden...Jn.
96. Psa. 41:9.....Betrayed by a familiar friend.....Jn. 13:18
97. Psa. 45:2...Words of Grace come from His lips...Lu. 4:22
98. Psa. 45:6...To own the title, God or Elohim...Heb. 1:8
99. Psa. 45:7...A special anointing by the Holy Spirit...Mt.3:16; Heb.1:9
100. Psa. 45:7,8...Called the Christ (Messiah or Anointed)...Lu. 2:11
101. Psa. 55:12-14...Betrayed by a friend, not an enemy...Jn. 13:18
102. Psa. 55:15...Unrepentant death of the Betrayer...Mt. 27:3-5; Acts 1:16-19
103. Psa. 68:18...To give gifts to men...Eph. 4:7-16
104. Psa. 68:18...Ascended into Heaven...Lu. 24:51
105. Psa. 69:4...Hated without a cause...Jn. 15:25
106. Psa. 69:8...A stranger to own brethren...Lu. 8;20,21
107. Psa. 69:9...Zealous for the Lord's House...Jn. 2:17
108. Psa. 69:14-20...Messiah's anguish of soul before crucifixion...Mt. 26:36-45
109. Psa. 69:20..."My soul is exceeding sorrowful."...Mt. 26:38
110. Psa. 69:21...Given vinegar in thirst...Mt. 27:34
111. Psa. 69:26...The Saviour given and smitten by God...Jn. 17:4; 18:11
112. Psa. 72:10,11...Great persons were to visit Him...Mt. 2:1-11
113. Psa. 72:16...The corn of wheat to fall into the Ground...Jn. 12:24
114. Psa. 72:17...His name, Yinon, will produce offspring...Jn. 1:12,13
115. Psa. 72:17...All nations shall be blessed by Him...Acts 2:11,12,41
116. Psa. 78:1.2...He would teach in parables...Mt. 13:34-35
117. Psa. 78:2b...To speak the Wisdom of God with authority...Mt. 7:29
118. Psa. 88:8...They stood afar off and watched...Lu. 23:49
119. Psa. 89:27...Emmanuel to be higher than earthly kings...Lu. 1:32,33
120. Psa. 89:35-37...David's Seed, throne, kingdom endure forever...Lu. 1:32,33
121. Psa. 89:36-37...His character-Faithfulness...Rev. 1:5
122. Psa. 90:2...He is from everlasting (Micah 5:2)...Jn. 1:1
123. Psa. 91:11,12...Identified as Messianic; used to tempt Christ...Lu. 4;10,11
124. Psa. 97:9...His exaltation predicted...Acts 1:11;Eph. 1:20
125. Psa. 100:5...His character-Goodness...Mt. 19:16,17
126. Psa. 102:1-11...The Suffering and Reproach of Calvary...Jn. 21:16-30
127. Psa. 102:25-27...Messiah is the Preexistent Son...Heb. 1:10-12
128. Psa. 109:25...Ridiculed...Mt. 27:39
129. Psa. 110:1...Son of David...Mt. 22:43
130. Psa. 110:1...To ascend to the right-hand of the Father...Mk.16:19
131. Psa. 110:1...David's son called Lord...Mt. 22:44,45
132. Psa. 110:4...A priest after Melchizedek's order...Heb. 6:20
133. Psa. 112:4...His character-Compassionate, Gracious, et al... Mt. 9;36
134. Psa. 118:17,18...Messiah's Resurrection assured...Lu. 24:5-7;1 Cor. 15:20
135. Psa. 118:22,23...The rejected stone is Head of the corner...Mt. 21:42,43
136. Psa. 118:26a...The Blessed One presented to Israel...Mt. 21:9
137. Psa. 118:26b...To come while Temple standing...Mt. 21;12-15
138. Psa. 132:11...The Seed of David (the fruit of His Body)...Lu. 1:32
139. Psa. 138:1-6...The supremacy of David's Seed amazes kings... Mt. 2:2-6
140. Psa. 147:3,6...The earthly ministry of Christ described...Lu. 4:18
141. Psa. 1:23...He will send the Spirit of God... Jn. 16;7
142. Song. 5;16...The altogether lovely One...Jn. 1:17
143. Isa. 6:1...When Isaiah saw His glory... Jn. 12:40-41
144. Isa. 6:9-10...Parables fall on deaf ears...Mt. 13:13-15
145. Isa. 6:9-12...Blinded to Christ and deaf to His words...Acts. 28:23-29
146. Isa. 7:14...To be born of a virgin...Lu. 1:35
147. Isa. 7:14...To be Emmanuel-God with us... Mt. 1:18-23
148. Isa. 8:8...Called Emmanuel...Mt. 28:20
149. Isa. 8:14...A stone of stumbling, a Rock of offense... 1 Pet. 2:8
150. Isa. 9:1,2...His ministry to begin in Galilee...Mt. 4:12-17
151. Isa. 9:6...A child born-Humanity...Lu. 1:31
152. Isa. 9:6...A Son given-Deity...Lu. 1:32; Jn. 1;14; 1 Tim. 3:16
153. Isa. 9:6...Declared to be the Son of God with power... Rom. 1:3,4
154. Isa. 9:6...The Wonderful One, Peleh...Lu. 4:22
155. Isa. 9:6...The Counsellor, Yaatz...Mt. 13:54
156. Isa. 9:6...The Mighty God, El Gibor...Mt. 11:20
157. Isa. 9:6...The Everlasting Father, Avi Adth...Jn. 8:58
158. Isa. 9:6...The Prince of Peace, Sar Shalom...Jn . 16:33
159. Isa. 9:7...To establish an everlasting kingdom...Lu. 1:32-33
160. Isa. 9:7...His Character-Just...Jn. 5:30
161. Isa. 9:7...No end to his Government, Throne, and Peace...Lu. 1:32-33
162. Isa. 11:1...Called a Nazarene-the Branch, Netzer...Mt. 2:23
163. Isa. 11:1...A rod out of Jesse-Son of Jesse...Lu. 3:23,32
164. Isa. 11:2...The anointed One by the Spirit...Mt. 3;16,17
165. Isa. 11:2...His Character-Wisdom, Understanding, et al....Jn. 4:4-26
166. Isa. 11:4...His Character-Truth...Jn. 14:6
167. Isa. 11:10...The Gentiles seek Him...Jn. 12:18-21
168. Isa. 12:2...Called Jesus-Yeshua(salvation)...Mt. 1:21
169. Isa. 25:8...The Resurrection predicted...I Cor. 15:54
170. Isa. 26:19...His power of Resurrection predicted...Jn. 11:43,44
171. Isa. 28:16...The Messiah is the precious corner stone...Acts 4:11,12
172. Isa. 29:13...He indicated hypocritical obedience to His Word...Mt. 15:7-9
173. Isa. 29:14...The wise are confounded by the Word...I Cor. 1:18-31
174. Isa. 32:2...A Refuge-A man shall be a hiding place...Mt. 23:37
175. Isa. 35:4...He will come and save you...Mt. 1:21
176. Isa. 35:5...To have a ministry of miracles...Mt. 11:4-6
177. Isa. 40:3,4...Preceded by forerunner...Jn. 1:23
178. Isa. 40:9..."Behold your God."...Jn. 1:36;19:14
179. Isa. 40:11...A shepherd-compassionate life-giver...Jn. 10:10-18
180. Isa. 42:1-4...The Servant-as a faithful, patient redeemer... Mt.12:18-21
181. Isa. 42:2...Meek and lowly... Mt. 11:28-30
182. Isa. 42:3...He brings hope for the hopeless... Jn. 4
183. Isa. 42:4...The nations shall wait on His teachings... Jn. 12:20-26
184. Isa. 42:6...The Light (salvation) of the Gentiles...Lu. 2:32
185. Isa. 42:1,6...His is a Worldwide compassion... Mt. 28:19,20
186. Isa. 42:7...Blind eyes opened... Jn. 9:25-38
187. Isa. 43:11...He is the only Saviour... Acts. 4:12
188. Isa. 44:3...He will send the Spirit of God... Jn. 16:7,13
189. Isa. 45:23...He will be the Judge... Jn. 5:22;Rom. 14:11
190. Isa. 48:12...The First and the Last...Jn. 1:30;Rev. 1:8,17
191. Isa. 48:17...He came as a Teacher...Jn. 3:2
192. Isa. 49:1...Called from the womb-His humanity...Mt. 1:18
193. Isa. 49:5...A Servant from the womb...Lu. 1:31;Phil. 2:7
194. Isa. 49:6...He is Salvation for Israel...Lu. 2:29-32
195. Isa. 49:6...He is the Light of the Gentiles...Acts 13:47
196. Isa. 49:6...He is Salvation unto the ends of the earth... Acts 15:7-18
197. Isa. 49:7...He is despised of the Nation... Jn. 8:48-49
198. Isa. 50:3...Heaven is clothed in black at His humiliation... Lu. 23:44,45
199. Isa. 50:4...He is a learned counsellor for the weary... Mt. 11:28,29
200. Isa. 50:5...The Servant bound willingly to obedience... Mt. 26:39
201. Isa. 50:6a..."I gave my back to the smiters."... Mt. 27:26
202. Isa. 50:6b...He was smitten on the cheeks... Mt. 26:67
203. Isa. 50:6c...He was spat upon... Mt. 27:30
204. Isa. 52:7...To publish good tidings of peace... Lu. 4:14,15
205. Isa. 52:13...The Servant exalted...Acts 1:8-11; Eph. 1:19-22
206. Isa. 52:13...Behold, My Servant... Mt. 17:5; Phil. 2:5-8
207. Isa. 52:14...The Servant shockingly abused... Lu. 18:31-34; Mt. 26:67,68
208. Isa. 52:15...Nations startled by message of the Servant... Rom. 15:18-21
209. Isa. 52:15...His blood shed to make atonement for all... Rev. 1:5
210. Isa. 53:1...His people would not believe Him... Jn. 12:37-38
211. Isa. 53:2a...He would grow up in a poor family.... Lu. 2:7
212. Isa. 53:2b...Appearance of an ordinary man... Phil. 2:7-8
213. Isa. 53:3a...Despised.... Lu. 4:28-29
214. Isa. 53:3b...Rejected... Mt. 27:21-23
215. Isa. 53:3c...Great sorrow and grief... Lu. 19:41-42
216. Isa. 53:3d...Men hide from being associated with Him... Mk. 14:50-52
217. Isa. 53:4a...He would have a healing ministry... Lu. 6:17-19
218. Isa. 53:4b...He would bear the sins of the world... 1 Pet. 2:24
219. Isa. 53:4c...Thought to be cursed by God... Mt. 27:41-43
220. Isa. 53:5a...Bears penalty for mankind's transgressions... Lu. 23:33
221. Isa. 53:5b...His sacrifice would provide peace between man and God... Col. 1:20
222. Isa. 53:5c...His back would be whipped... Mt. 27:26
223. Isa. 53:6a...He would be the sin-bearer for all mankind...Gal. 1:4
224. Isa. 53:6b...God's will that He bear sin for all mankind... 1 Jn. 4:10
225. Isa. 53:7a...Oppressed and afflicted... Mt. 27:27-31
226. Isa. 53:7b...Silent before his accusers... Mt. 27:12-14
227. Isa. 53:7c...Sacrificial lamb... Jn. 1:29
228. Isa. 53:8a...Confined and persecuted... Mt. 26:47-27:31
229. Isa. 53:8b...He would be judged... Jn. 18:13-22
230. Isa. 53:8c...Killed.... Mt. 27:35
231. Isa. 53:8d...Dies for the sins of the world... 1 Jn. 2:2
232. Isa. 53:9a...Buried in a rich man's grave... Mt. 27:57
233. Isa. 53:9b...Innocent and had done no violence... Mk. 15:3
234. Isa. 53:9c...No deceit in his mouth... Jn. 18:38
235. Isa. 53:10a...God's will that He die for mankind... Jn. 18:11
236. Isa. 53:10b...An offering for sin... Mt. 20:28
237. Isa. 53:10c...Resurrected and live forever.... Mk. 16:16
238. Isa. 53:10d...He would prosper... Jn. 17:1-5
239. Isa. 53:11a...God fully satisfied with His suffering... Jn. 12:27
240. Isa. 53:11b...God's servant... Rom. 5:18-19
241. Isa. 53:11c...He would justify man before God... Rom. 5:8-9
242. Isa. 53:11d...The sin-bearer for all mankind... Heb. 9:28
243. Isa. 53:12a...Exalted by God because of his sacrifice... Mt. 28:18
244. Isa. 53:12b...He would give up his life to save mankind... Lu. 23:46
245. Isa. 53:12c...Grouped with criminals... Lu. 23:32
246. Isa. 53:12d...Sin-bearer for all mankind... 2 Cor. 5:21
247. Isa. 53:12e...Intercede to God in behalf of mankind... Lu. 23:34
248. Isa. 55:3...Resurrected by God... Acts 13:34
249. Isa. 55:4...A witness... Jn. 18:37
250. Isa. 59:15-16a...He would come to provide salvation... Jn. 6:40
251. Isa. 59:15-16b...Intercessor between man and God... Mt. 10:32
252. Isa. 59:20...He would come to Zion as their Redeemer... Lu. 2:38
253. Isa. 61:1-2a...The Spirit of God upon him... Mt. 3:16-17
254. Isa. 61:1-2b...The Messiah would preach the good news... Lu. 4:17-21
255. Isa. 61:1-2c...Provide freedom from the bondage of sin and death... Jn. 8:31-32
256. Isa. 61:1-2...Proclaim a period of grace... Jn. 5:24
257. Jer.23:5-6a...Descendant of David...Lu. 3:23-31
258. Jer. 23:5-6b...The Messiah would be God... Jn. 13:13
259. Jer. 23:5-6c...The Messiah would be both God and Man... 1 Tim. 3:16
260. Jer. 31:22...Born of a virgin... Mt. 1:18-20
261. Jer. 31:31...The Messiah would be the new covenant... Mt. 26:28
262. Jer. 33:14-15...Descendant of David... Lu. 3:23-31
263. Eze.17:22-24...Descendant of David... Lk. 3:23-31
264. Eze.34:23-24...Descendant of David... Mt. 1:1
265. Dan. 7:13-14a...He would ascend into heaven... Acts 1:9-11
266. Dan. 7:13-14b...Highly exalted... Eph. 1:20-22
267. Dan. 7:13-14c...His dominion would be everlasting... Lu. 1:31-33
268. Dan. 9:24a...To make an end to sins... Gal. 1:3-5
269. Dan. 9:24b...He would be holy... Lu. 1:35
270. Dan. 9:25...Announced to his people 483 years, to the exact day, after the decree to rebuild the city of Jerusalem... Jn. 12:12-13
271. Dan. 9:26a...Killed... Mt. 27:35
272. Dan. 9:26b...Die for the sins of the world... Heb. 2:9
273. Dan. 9:26c...Killed before the destruction of the temple... Mt. 27:50-51
274. Dan. 10:5-6...Messiah in a glorified state... Rev. 1:13-16
275. Hos. 13:14...He would defeat death... 1 Cor. 15:55-57
276. Joel 2:32...Offer salvation to all mankind... Rom. 10:12-13
277. Mic. 5:2a...Born in Bethlehem... Mt. 2:1-2
278. Mic. 5:2b...God's servant... Jn. 15:10
279. Mic. 5:2c...From everlasting... Jn. 8:58
280. Hag. 2:6-9...He would visit the second Temple... Lu. 2:27-32
281. Hag. 2:23...Descendant of Zerubbabel... Lu. 3:23-27
282. Zech. 3:8...God's servant... Jn. 17:4
283. Zech. 6:12-13...Priest and King... Heb. 8:1
284. Zech. 9:9a...Greeted with rejoicing in Jerusalem... Mt. 21:8-10
285. Zech. 9:9b...Beheld as King... Jn. 12:12-13
286. Zech. 9:9c...The Messiah would be just... Jn. 5:30
287. Zech. 9:9d...The Messiah would bring salvation... Luke 19:10
288. Zech. 9:9e...The Messiah would be humble... Mt. 11:29
289. Zech. 9:9f...Presented to Jerusalem riding on a donkey... Mt. 21:6-9
290. Zech. 10:4...The cornerstone... Eph. 2:20
291. Zech. 11:4-6a...At His coming, Israel to have unfit leaders... Mt. 23:1-4
292. Zech. 11:4-6b...Rejection causes God to remove His protection.. Lu. 19:41-44
293. Zech. 11:4-6c...Rejected in favor of another king... Jn. 19:13-15
294. Zech. 11:7...Ministry to "poor," the believing remnant... Mt. 9:35-36
295. Zech. 11:8a...Unbelief forces Messiah to reject them... Mt. 23:33
296. Zech. 11:8b...Despised... Mt. 27:20
297. Zech. 11:9...Stops ministering to the those who rejected Him... Mt. 13:10-11
298. Zech. 11:10-11a...Rejection causes God to remove protection... Lu. 19:41-44
299. Zech. 11:10-11b...The Messiah would be God... Jn. 14:7
300. Zech. 11:12-13a...Betrayed for thirty pieces of silver... Mt. 26:14-15
301. Zech. 11:12-13b...Rejected... Mt. 26:14-15
302. Zech. 11:12-13c...Thirty pieces of silver thrown into the house of the Lord... Mt. 27:3-5
303. Zech. 11:12-13d...The Messiah would be God... Jn. 12:45
304. Zech. 12:10a...The Messiah's body would be pierced... Jn. 19:34-37
305. Zech. 12:10b...The Messiah would be both God and man... Jn. 10:30
306. Zech. 12:10c...The Messiah would be rejected... Jn. 1:11
307. Zech. 13:7a...God's will He die for mankind... Jn. 18:11
308. Zech. 13:7b...A violent death... Mt. 27:35
309. Zech. 13:7c...Both God and man.. Jn. 14:9
310. Zech. 13:7d...Israel scattered as a result of rejecting Him... Mt. 26:31-56
311. Mal. 3:1a...Messenger to prepare the way for Messiah... Mt. 11:10
312. Mal. 3:1b...Sudden appearance at the temple... Mk. 11:15-16
313. Mal. 3:1c...Messenger of the new covenant... Lu. 4:43
314. Mal. 4:5...Forerunner in the spirit of Elijah... Mt. 3:1-2
315. Mal. 4:6...Forerunner would turn many to righteousness... Lu. 1:16-17
Astronomical Odds:
These two men, PETER W. STONER, M.S.Chairman of the Departments of Mathematics and Astronomy at Pasadena City College until 1953; Chairman of the science division, Westmont College, 1953-57; Professor Emeritus of Science, Westmont College; Professor Emeritus of Mathematics and Astronomy, Pasadena City College.
ROBERT C. NEWMAN, S.T.M., Ph.D.Ph.D. in Astrophysics, Cornell University, 1967; S.T.M., Biblical School of Theology, 1972; Associate Professor of Physics and Mathematics, Shelton College, 19689-71; Associate professor of New Testament, Biblical School of Theology, 1971-
Wrote a book entitled "Science Speaks, Scientific Proof of the Accuracy of Prophecy and the Bible."
In it they took only eight of the more than 300 prophecies fulfilled by Christ and determined the odds of one person fulfilling just those eight. The results were astounding! They calculated the odds at 1 in 10 to the 17th power or 1 in 100, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000. Dr. Stoner calculated that many silver dollars would cover the entire state of Texas, two feet deep! I ask you, what do you think the odds are that if one silver dollar was painted red, how likely would it be for a blind folded person to march out and pick up the red one on the first try? Certainly if one did that, it would be by definition, a miracle!
Friday, November 27, 2009
The Universal Human
by Barbara Marx Hubbard
Whatever gets our attention, gets all of us.
1Cor. 15:37...that which thou sowest is not that body which shall be..
The resurrected body does not look like the seed from which it came. It is new and cannot be conceived from the perspective of the seed, save as a dim intuition of things to come. Fear not. Every seed has the design of its own future. The human being of flesh and blood is seed to the Universal Human. The human being has recorded in its mind the design of its own growth. Fear not. We do not need to know how to grow in order to grow. Let the plan unfold by purifying our mind, trusting our intuition, acting on our vision and remaining humble in the face of the awesome infinity which we do not yet know but soon will.
1 Cor. 15: 38-39, 41
"But God giveth it a body as it has pleased Him, and to every seed his own body."
The Universal Human we are growing toward has a beautiful body. Out only test is to purify our thoughts and act on our vision. All the rest is prepatterned. Our initiative is essential to growth. Unless the seeds break their shell, put down their roots, and send up their shoots to seek the light of the day, there will be no new body.
Every seed is unique. That which comes forth at this stage of history will know its creation more clearly.
1 Cor. 15:42, 44
"So also is the resurrection of the dead. it is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body and there is a spiritual body."
The seed of humanity, which is sown in animal bodies will be raised in spiritual bodies.
The natural body resonates at a low frequency. The spirutal body resonates at a higher frequency. During the transition from natural to spiritual through conscious evolution rather than physical death, there is a time of instability, when the frequency shifts from lower to higher, the intellect is disoriented and the body is surprised. This is a time for hibernation. As the bear sleeps through the winter alive, the tranforming human must sleep awhile to the world, must renounce all worldly concerns, must trust the process as a newborn child trusts its mother whom it has not yet recognized, so strange is she to a creature conceived and grown in the darkness of the womb, born into the world it knows not how, or why, or where.
So are we transforming humans at this stage of evolution, who are preparing not to sleep but to be changed in a twinkling of the eye.
The change is not planned by us. It is already prepatterned in our genes. Do we know how an eye opens for the first time? Do we know how an ear, built in the silence of the womb by millions of efficienct cells, hears for the first time? No, but it is natural. Transformation is natural. It is natural for a flesh and blood body to transform into an imperishable body at the stage of history when the species graduates from its terrestial to its universal phase.
"Oh, ye of little faith, who believe this is all there is, open your eyes and wonder how even this is here when only yesterday the Earth was silent, there was no light and no mind experienced life.
Imagine tomorrow, when the Earth is renewed, the body is imperishable, the minds are joined, the cocoon of Earth is open, the stars are your home and you have discovered that you can speak the language of the universe.
The unknown tongues of yesterday are the universal tones of tomorrow. The music of the spheres becomes comprehesibe to bodies resonating at a frequency that can pick up the vibrations of the universal conversations, which are even now gently impinging on you sleeping senses.
Awake, Oh humans, and smile, for the time you have prayed for is coming, the love you have yearned for is yours, the sights you have longed for will be seen. Day will break through the long dark night of the the soul, encased in dying bodies praying for the light.
The light is near, the light is here!"
Whatever gets our attention, gets all of us.
1Cor. 15:37...that which thou sowest is not that body which shall be..
The resurrected body does not look like the seed from which it came. It is new and cannot be conceived from the perspective of the seed, save as a dim intuition of things to come. Fear not. Every seed has the design of its own future. The human being of flesh and blood is seed to the Universal Human. The human being has recorded in its mind the design of its own growth. Fear not. We do not need to know how to grow in order to grow. Let the plan unfold by purifying our mind, trusting our intuition, acting on our vision and remaining humble in the face of the awesome infinity which we do not yet know but soon will.
1 Cor. 15: 38-39, 41
"But God giveth it a body as it has pleased Him, and to every seed his own body."
The Universal Human we are growing toward has a beautiful body. Out only test is to purify our thoughts and act on our vision. All the rest is prepatterned. Our initiative is essential to growth. Unless the seeds break their shell, put down their roots, and send up their shoots to seek the light of the day, there will be no new body.
Every seed is unique. That which comes forth at this stage of history will know its creation more clearly.
1 Cor. 15:42, 44
"So also is the resurrection of the dead. it is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body and there is a spiritual body."
The seed of humanity, which is sown in animal bodies will be raised in spiritual bodies.
The natural body resonates at a low frequency. The spirutal body resonates at a higher frequency. During the transition from natural to spiritual through conscious evolution rather than physical death, there is a time of instability, when the frequency shifts from lower to higher, the intellect is disoriented and the body is surprised. This is a time for hibernation. As the bear sleeps through the winter alive, the tranforming human must sleep awhile to the world, must renounce all worldly concerns, must trust the process as a newborn child trusts its mother whom it has not yet recognized, so strange is she to a creature conceived and grown in the darkness of the womb, born into the world it knows not how, or why, or where.
So are we transforming humans at this stage of evolution, who are preparing not to sleep but to be changed in a twinkling of the eye.
The change is not planned by us. It is already prepatterned in our genes. Do we know how an eye opens for the first time? Do we know how an ear, built in the silence of the womb by millions of efficienct cells, hears for the first time? No, but it is natural. Transformation is natural. It is natural for a flesh and blood body to transform into an imperishable body at the stage of history when the species graduates from its terrestial to its universal phase.
"Oh, ye of little faith, who believe this is all there is, open your eyes and wonder how even this is here when only yesterday the Earth was silent, there was no light and no mind experienced life.
Imagine tomorrow, when the Earth is renewed, the body is imperishable, the minds are joined, the cocoon of Earth is open, the stars are your home and you have discovered that you can speak the language of the universe.
The unknown tongues of yesterday are the universal tones of tomorrow. The music of the spheres becomes comprehesibe to bodies resonating at a frequency that can pick up the vibrations of the universal conversations, which are even now gently impinging on you sleeping senses.
Awake, Oh humans, and smile, for the time you have prayed for is coming, the love you have yearned for is yours, the sights you have longed for will be seen. Day will break through the long dark night of the the soul, encased in dying bodies praying for the light.
The light is near, the light is here!"
What Is the Purpose of Physical Existence?
Quote:
"When Pure Existence wakes up, manifest creation begins.
In this view, the process of manifestation becomes the means through which existence becomes aware of its infinite nature.
You can think of the evolution of matter and life as creating a mirror through which immortality and bliss can ultimately recognize itself through an enlightened human nervous system.
Without creation pure existence still exists, so we may have been perfect, but that perfect unity is not conscious of itself, so it is not a functional sense of unity.
For unity to become aware of itself, it needs to manifest creation. The test for physical existence is to learn that we are not a physical being separate from God but that we are a divine spark."
"When Pure Existence wakes up, manifest creation begins.
In this view, the process of manifestation becomes the means through which existence becomes aware of its infinite nature.
You can think of the evolution of matter and life as creating a mirror through which immortality and bliss can ultimately recognize itself through an enlightened human nervous system.
Without creation pure existence still exists, so we may have been perfect, but that perfect unity is not conscious of itself, so it is not a functional sense of unity.
For unity to become aware of itself, it needs to manifest creation. The test for physical existence is to learn that we are not a physical being separate from God but that we are a divine spark."
Wednesday, November 25, 2009
"Eureka"
Our time has come to birth a new reality
Time spent in Shadowland is over
For all appointments and assignments are concluded
When you become One with the Light from which you're issued.
Born anew in this Holy Instant
Ready to traverse new worlds
On paths paved with Love's brightest intentions.
Super highways of consciousness with well marked roads
Bearing names like "Joy", "Ecstasy", and "Peace" by the load.
Sorrow and suffering nowhere to be found
For through the power of creative intention
Their energy has been transmuted into Higher Sound.
Vibrations and frequencies that form new worlds
Giving rise to the exclamation! "Eureka, a child has been born!"
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Just as Mary, conceived, carried and gave birth to her own Savior, we, too, have conceived, and have carried this incorruptible Seed of Life and are giving birth to our own True Savior Self.
Time spent in Shadowland is over
For all appointments and assignments are concluded
When you become One with the Light from which you're issued.
Born anew in this Holy Instant
Ready to traverse new worlds
On paths paved with Love's brightest intentions.
Super highways of consciousness with well marked roads
Bearing names like "Joy", "Ecstasy", and "Peace" by the load.
Sorrow and suffering nowhere to be found
For through the power of creative intention
Their energy has been transmuted into Higher Sound.
Vibrations and frequencies that form new worlds
Giving rise to the exclamation! "Eureka, a child has been born!"
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Just as Mary, conceived, carried and gave birth to her own Savior, we, too, have conceived, and have carried this incorruptible Seed of Life and are giving birth to our own True Savior Self.
Sunday, May 03, 2009
The Third Birth
By Jane Leade, a 17th century prophetess
There are THREE BIRTHS of the Spirit, each one greater than the previous birth...the THIRD BIRTH, which alone is appropriated to the entire Spiritual Triune God; who as in ONE will swallow up every lower degree that must now go forward in you, in order to attain this superior BIRTH.
This Birth can only be born from out of those who ascend to Mount Zion as the proper region in which the pure Virgin can travail...Oh! It is so high, great and foremost in importance, that outside this holy climate it cannot be manifested. Therefore, consider what holy separate and sequestered spirits (set apart from others)you must be if you hope to attain this THIRD BIRTH, and to which you must give yourselves unto!
Faint no, but stick close unto that which will be as a munition of rocks to you for strength, Light and Counsel, until you are brought to this last Birth of Glory, and your Jesus appears therein. Therefore, are you to set forward, and be as those that are dead, and yet alive. Then may you expect the breaking forth of this High and Great manifestation of GOD THE HOLY GHOST. He will indeed reign Omnipotently over all that has lain under the fall. NO SONG OF FULL REDEMPTION CAN BE SUNG UNTIL this Kingdom of the Lamb and Bride do mutually meet.
The GREAT AND LAST BIRTHDAY of the Spirit is drawing near. (the 90% of the 10% earnest which we received in Pentecost)....the barren SARAH shall again bear from the youthful nature of the Virgin...for the Triune God to consummate all by this one passing act of SPIRITUAL GENERATION. This is that which must bring the cure upon the mortal wound, as this whole Triune Birth is born in each one...
Man has not yet known that last Celestial Baptism of the HOLY GHOST. This is the Breath of Power, a flame of purity and clarified Earth, through which golden streams do run within every vein to make up a Transparent Body that may be worthy to become the vehicle of the Holy Triune God. HERE IS THE BIRTH THAT HAS NOT YET COME INTO THE WORLD. There has needed to be the VIRGIN WOMAN clothed with the Sun to bring it forth, who must be drawn aside from everthing, and kept up only for this travailing work. She has an appointed daily portion from the HIGH FATHER of this Birth, sent for the nourishing of this which is so highly compacted (joined) of the Threefold Seed of Deity, so that NO DEFECT OR SHORTNESS OF POWER AND DISABILITY may be manifested, and WHICH HAS BEEN THE COMPLAINT IN THE PAST. When the Triune God agrees as ONE to pass through the Virgin Mind, THEN shall these walk as full victors ove the Sea of Glass.."
from Fountain of Gardens
There are THREE BIRTHS of the Spirit, each one greater than the previous birth...the THIRD BIRTH, which alone is appropriated to the entire Spiritual Triune God; who as in ONE will swallow up every lower degree that must now go forward in you, in order to attain this superior BIRTH.
This Birth can only be born from out of those who ascend to Mount Zion as the proper region in which the pure Virgin can travail...Oh! It is so high, great and foremost in importance, that outside this holy climate it cannot be manifested. Therefore, consider what holy separate and sequestered spirits (set apart from others)you must be if you hope to attain this THIRD BIRTH, and to which you must give yourselves unto!
Faint no, but stick close unto that which will be as a munition of rocks to you for strength, Light and Counsel, until you are brought to this last Birth of Glory, and your Jesus appears therein. Therefore, are you to set forward, and be as those that are dead, and yet alive. Then may you expect the breaking forth of this High and Great manifestation of GOD THE HOLY GHOST. He will indeed reign Omnipotently over all that has lain under the fall. NO SONG OF FULL REDEMPTION CAN BE SUNG UNTIL this Kingdom of the Lamb and Bride do mutually meet.
The GREAT AND LAST BIRTHDAY of the Spirit is drawing near. (the 90% of the 10% earnest which we received in Pentecost)....the barren SARAH shall again bear from the youthful nature of the Virgin...for the Triune God to consummate all by this one passing act of SPIRITUAL GENERATION. This is that which must bring the cure upon the mortal wound, as this whole Triune Birth is born in each one...
Man has not yet known that last Celestial Baptism of the HOLY GHOST. This is the Breath of Power, a flame of purity and clarified Earth, through which golden streams do run within every vein to make up a Transparent Body that may be worthy to become the vehicle of the Holy Triune God. HERE IS THE BIRTH THAT HAS NOT YET COME INTO THE WORLD. There has needed to be the VIRGIN WOMAN clothed with the Sun to bring it forth, who must be drawn aside from everthing, and kept up only for this travailing work. She has an appointed daily portion from the HIGH FATHER of this Birth, sent for the nourishing of this which is so highly compacted (joined) of the Threefold Seed of Deity, so that NO DEFECT OR SHORTNESS OF POWER AND DISABILITY may be manifested, and WHICH HAS BEEN THE COMPLAINT IN THE PAST. When the Triune God agrees as ONE to pass through the Virgin Mind, THEN shall these walk as full victors ove the Sea of Glass.."
from Fountain of Gardens
Thursday, April 16, 2009
The Weaker Vessel
I'm excerpting the following lines from someone's post because this is how I see what The New Creation Man really is.
Quote:
Only by joining the two halves do the two become one. As two become one something NEW is born. The new thing is not either or but rather is the combination of the two and something new all together.
Amen! When Life was breathed into the dust man, this "man" was in soulish form, a living soul. He operated from the feminine realm. The feminine is the wife or womb of God. It is where the divine seed or sperma of God must be deposited in order to birth THE CHILD, The New Creation Man, which is born from the union of the feminine and the masculine, or the union of God and man (which is the bigger picture of soul and spirit). Man is not eliminated from this equation...."Let us make Man". This is not an either/or thing that God is doing. Spirit is invisible....it has no form....until we as his creation give him one. But we cannot give God a New Wine Skin to live in until the marriage is consumated, conceived, grown, and then birthed into manifestation.
"SHE (the feminine element of God) was taken out of man, (this is precisely what God did when he took out of himself a creation)
Therefore ( or consequently),
Consequently shall a man leave Mother and Father and be joined to his wife."
"God shall provide Himself a Lamb". God sent Himself as Jesus to be the male Lamb without blemish whose seed would enter into our deadened (Sara-like) womb causing us to conceive new or resurrection life.
The Lamb:
"God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself."Picking up on the thought of just who the "Woman" truly is - God's wife or womb or all of mankind before they are quickened to life by being inseminated with the incorruptible seed of God to bring forth a birth.
I think it is interesting to compare what Paul said about weakenss or the weaker vessel but to hear it from this higher vantage point.
1 Pet. 3:7
In the same way you married men should live considerately with your wives, with an intelligent recognition, honoring the woman as the weaker, but realizing that you are joint heirs of the grace of life..."
2 Cor. 12:9
But He said to me, My grace - My favor and loving-kindness and mercy- are enough for you; for My strength and power are made perfect - fulfilled and completed and show themselves most effective in you weakness. Therefore I will all the more gladly glory in my weaknesses and infirmities, that the strength and power of Christ the Messiah may rest - yes, may pitch a tent over and dwell upon me!
So for the sake of Christ, I am well pleased and take pleasure in infirmities, insults, hardships, persecutions, perplexities, and distresses, for when I am weak, then am I truly strong - able, powerful in divine strength." \o/
It takes birth pangs to bring forth this son....and God honors her in this weakened process of distress knowing that she is heavy with child, pregnant with the Son of Glory, the New Creation Man.
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The following a reply from Grace:
I especially am interested in the weaker vessel idea. Some time ago I was thinking along these lines, being female myself....and the idea of a weaker vessel made me realize that if there is a weaker vessel, there must also be a weak. That would mean that the male is the weak...(DEFICIENT IN ABILITY)just as powerless to reproduce himself as the weaker vessel is..., there is no reproduction if the weaker and the weak are not joined. Which makes us interdependent on each other. I see man as the soul of God...the weaker vessel (apparatus, utensil, container).
God (as Father), without man (the soul of God) cannot reproduce himself. I never thought of God as weak...but according to the principle the Creator instituted "in the beginning," the weaker vessel is just as necessary as the weak. What do you think?
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Wow! what a neat insight Grace....God being the "weak" vessel. (metaphysically speaking, of course)
"Unless the seed falls in the ground and dies IT ABIDES ALONE!"
The Alone One, or the Weak One needed a weaker one in order to not be alone anymore!
Hallelujah, the pattern is repeated in the story of Adam and Eve and yet, again on the cross when Jesus side was riven and blood and water poured forth from his heart-womb as he was birthing the New Creation species into being.
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Grace:
Karen, it's interesting that Mary could not have given birth to Jesus if she had not been WEAK..not capable of bearing a child since she knew not a man..it took the POWER OF the HIGHEST (MOST HIGH)to overshadow her. That is exciting...we are being overshadowed by the Most High.....in our weakness...but the power of the HIGHEST is overshadowing us!!! Too many thoughts coming....I feel a tingling internally as I ponder these things.
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Loved your thought about Mary being weak too....in not knowing man.....exactly our condition too without the Overshadowing of the Highest as you said.
I have written so many times about the Most High being Posessor of Heaven and Earth, I am a regular nuisance with it, but I can see the Most High, the Possessor of Heaven coming to claim for Himself his bride, bringing about the marriage of Heaven and Earth as One.
Quote:
Only by joining the two halves do the two become one. As two become one something NEW is born. The new thing is not either or but rather is the combination of the two and something new all together.
Amen! When Life was breathed into the dust man, this "man" was in soulish form, a living soul. He operated from the feminine realm. The feminine is the wife or womb of God. It is where the divine seed or sperma of God must be deposited in order to birth THE CHILD, The New Creation Man, which is born from the union of the feminine and the masculine, or the union of God and man (which is the bigger picture of soul and spirit). Man is not eliminated from this equation...."Let us make Man". This is not an either/or thing that God is doing. Spirit is invisible....it has no form....until we as his creation give him one. But we cannot give God a New Wine Skin to live in until the marriage is consumated, conceived, grown, and then birthed into manifestation.
"SHE (the feminine element of God) was taken out of man, (this is precisely what God did when he took out of himself a creation)
Therefore ( or consequently),
Consequently shall a man leave Mother and Father and be joined to his wife."
"God shall provide Himself a Lamb". God sent Himself as Jesus to be the male Lamb without blemish whose seed would enter into our deadened (Sara-like) womb causing us to conceive new or resurrection life.
The Lamb:
"God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself."Picking up on the thought of just who the "Woman" truly is - God's wife or womb or all of mankind before they are quickened to life by being inseminated with the incorruptible seed of God to bring forth a birth.
I think it is interesting to compare what Paul said about weakenss or the weaker vessel but to hear it from this higher vantage point.
1 Pet. 3:7
In the same way you married men should live considerately with your wives, with an intelligent recognition, honoring the woman as the weaker, but realizing that you are joint heirs of the grace of life..."
2 Cor. 12:9
But He said to me, My grace - My favor and loving-kindness and mercy- are enough for you; for My strength and power are made perfect - fulfilled and completed and show themselves most effective in you weakness. Therefore I will all the more gladly glory in my weaknesses and infirmities, that the strength and power of Christ the Messiah may rest - yes, may pitch a tent over and dwell upon me!
So for the sake of Christ, I am well pleased and take pleasure in infirmities, insults, hardships, persecutions, perplexities, and distresses, for when I am weak, then am I truly strong - able, powerful in divine strength." \o/
It takes birth pangs to bring forth this son....and God honors her in this weakened process of distress knowing that she is heavy with child, pregnant with the Son of Glory, the New Creation Man.
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The following a reply from Grace:
I especially am interested in the weaker vessel idea. Some time ago I was thinking along these lines, being female myself....and the idea of a weaker vessel made me realize that if there is a weaker vessel, there must also be a weak. That would mean that the male is the weak...(DEFICIENT IN ABILITY)just as powerless to reproduce himself as the weaker vessel is..., there is no reproduction if the weaker and the weak are not joined. Which makes us interdependent on each other. I see man as the soul of God...the weaker vessel (apparatus, utensil, container).
God (as Father), without man (the soul of God) cannot reproduce himself. I never thought of God as weak...but according to the principle the Creator instituted "in the beginning," the weaker vessel is just as necessary as the weak. What do you think?
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Wow! what a neat insight Grace....God being the "weak" vessel. (metaphysically speaking, of course)
"Unless the seed falls in the ground and dies IT ABIDES ALONE!"
The Alone One, or the Weak One needed a weaker one in order to not be alone anymore!
Hallelujah, the pattern is repeated in the story of Adam and Eve and yet, again on the cross when Jesus side was riven and blood and water poured forth from his heart-womb as he was birthing the New Creation species into being.
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Grace:
Karen, it's interesting that Mary could not have given birth to Jesus if she had not been WEAK..not capable of bearing a child since she knew not a man..it took the POWER OF the HIGHEST (MOST HIGH)to overshadow her. That is exciting...we are being overshadowed by the Most High.....in our weakness...but the power of the HIGHEST is overshadowing us!!! Too many thoughts coming....I feel a tingling internally as I ponder these things.
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Loved your thought about Mary being weak too....in not knowing man.....exactly our condition too without the Overshadowing of the Highest as you said.
I have written so many times about the Most High being Posessor of Heaven and Earth, I am a regular nuisance with it, but I can see the Most High, the Possessor of Heaven coming to claim for Himself his bride, bringing about the marriage of Heaven and Earth as One.
Wednesday, April 15, 2009
The New Species
Believe me, we have had conversations in depth on other boards how that Jesus has been made an idol of. But even if he has, I am persuaded that that water of child-like consciousness, can easily be made into the wine of my mature Christ reality....I know that by experience. We have discussed that he absolutely was a man.....he had no power whatsoever unless God anointed him. He always pointed out that it was the Father in him that did the works. He was tempted in all points like unto us. The word tells us that no man can be tempted unless he is drawn away of his own lusts and enticed. Jesus was enticed and tempted by his humanity the same as any other man, but overcame. Jesus forfeited his celestial glory and privilege to be made flesh like unto ours. He had to grow in grace and wisdom. He had to be MADE a priest and king....there was a making process involved.
BUT what Jesus came to show us was that man or mankind can make a quantum leap, a complete metamorphosis from being the hu-man or from being a hued down version of the MAN that God said He was making.
Adam was a hued down version of God's full intention, he was never in God's full image. Isn't red the lowest of vibrations in the color wheel. Doesn't Adam's name mean "red". God was just getting started with the making of his MAN when he finished with Adam.
Adam was the federal head of the hu-man race...the hued down man. All who have been born in his image are mortal...a condition that effected us all spiritually, mentally and physically.
Jesus, the historical Jesus, the man, was the Last Adam.
He came to bring an end to this hued down man species and to become the first of a BRAND NEW SPECIES, The New Creation Man. The resurrection was his quantum leap out of Adamkind!
That makes him the federal head of The New Creation Man. He has become the Father of a New Species just as Adam was of the old man. That's why Peter stood on the day of Pentecost and declared under the anointing of the spirit that Jesus had been made BOTH Christ and Lord.
And as a brother just pointed out you can no longer make a separation between what is Christ and what is Jesus. If we edit Jesus from the Christ, we will have to edit ourselves from the Christ as well.
I have diligently tried in every post that I have ever made concerning the glory that Jesus attained to, to point out that this is our calling as well. But we couldn't get there on our own...we laid our glory aside the same as Jesus did to take on flesh. We became entranced and enmeshed by the spell of matter....in need of a Savior.
When I first came out of the church system and God was teaching me about our inclusion in the fullness of Christ or Sonship and how great his love was that would reconcile all unto Himself, I started inching away from Jesus....I felt I was being more progressive just saying Christ and it would be less "offensive" to others. But one day the Lord broke my heart from ever doing that again. I wept before him in shame. When I say Jesus, it means Christ. When I say Christ, it means Jesus. This Jesus was made the head of this brand new Christ species body. He is not just a historical figure to me, although he was that, he has anointed me with the same spirit that glorified him and raised him from the dead.....this anointing is my downpayment installment of glory that is progressively bringing me up into the same glory that he attained. In spirit, in soul and in body.
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And I agree with the brother who says that Christ surrenders or subjects all to the Father but when does he do this?
"When he delivers over the kingdom to God the Father AFTER RENDERING INOPERATIVE AND ABOLISHING EVERY [OTHER] RULE AND EVERY AUTHORITY AND POWER.
FOR CHRIST MUST BE KING AND REIGN UNTIL HE HAS PUT ALL [HIS] ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET.
The last enemy to be subdued and abolished is death. [that is death in all its forms - spirit, soul and body]
For He the Father has put all things in subjection under His [Christ's] feet. But when it says, All things are put in subjection under Christ, it is evident that He [Himself] is excepted Who does the subjecting of all things to Him. 1 Cor. 15
Christ must be King and reign in us....self has to get off the throne.....everything that would exalt itself against the Lordship of Christ in us.
Christ in us is our hope of Father-like glory....the same kind of glory that Jesus asked to be given. We will father the new heaven and the new earth as co-creators with him. I hope these few words will serve to bless his body in some way.
Love and communion in Christ,
Karen
BUT what Jesus came to show us was that man or mankind can make a quantum leap, a complete metamorphosis from being the hu-man or from being a hued down version of the MAN that God said He was making.
Adam was a hued down version of God's full intention, he was never in God's full image. Isn't red the lowest of vibrations in the color wheel. Doesn't Adam's name mean "red". God was just getting started with the making of his MAN when he finished with Adam.
Adam was the federal head of the hu-man race...the hued down man. All who have been born in his image are mortal...a condition that effected us all spiritually, mentally and physically.
Jesus, the historical Jesus, the man, was the Last Adam.
He came to bring an end to this hued down man species and to become the first of a BRAND NEW SPECIES, The New Creation Man. The resurrection was his quantum leap out of Adamkind!
That makes him the federal head of The New Creation Man. He has become the Father of a New Species just as Adam was of the old man. That's why Peter stood on the day of Pentecost and declared under the anointing of the spirit that Jesus had been made BOTH Christ and Lord.
And as a brother just pointed out you can no longer make a separation between what is Christ and what is Jesus. If we edit Jesus from the Christ, we will have to edit ourselves from the Christ as well.
I have diligently tried in every post that I have ever made concerning the glory that Jesus attained to, to point out that this is our calling as well. But we couldn't get there on our own...we laid our glory aside the same as Jesus did to take on flesh. We became entranced and enmeshed by the spell of matter....in need of a Savior.
When I first came out of the church system and God was teaching me about our inclusion in the fullness of Christ or Sonship and how great his love was that would reconcile all unto Himself, I started inching away from Jesus....I felt I was being more progressive just saying Christ and it would be less "offensive" to others. But one day the Lord broke my heart from ever doing that again. I wept before him in shame. When I say Jesus, it means Christ. When I say Christ, it means Jesus. This Jesus was made the head of this brand new Christ species body. He is not just a historical figure to me, although he was that, he has anointed me with the same spirit that glorified him and raised him from the dead.....this anointing is my downpayment installment of glory that is progressively bringing me up into the same glory that he attained. In spirit, in soul and in body.
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And I agree with the brother who says that Christ surrenders or subjects all to the Father but when does he do this?
"When he delivers over the kingdom to God the Father AFTER RENDERING INOPERATIVE AND ABOLISHING EVERY [OTHER] RULE AND EVERY AUTHORITY AND POWER.
FOR CHRIST MUST BE KING AND REIGN UNTIL HE HAS PUT ALL [HIS] ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET.
The last enemy to be subdued and abolished is death. [that is death in all its forms - spirit, soul and body]
For He the Father has put all things in subjection under His [Christ's] feet. But when it says, All things are put in subjection under Christ, it is evident that He [Himself] is excepted Who does the subjecting of all things to Him. 1 Cor. 15
Christ must be King and reign in us....self has to get off the throne.....everything that would exalt itself against the Lordship of Christ in us.
Christ in us is our hope of Father-like glory....the same kind of glory that Jesus asked to be given. We will father the new heaven and the new earth as co-creators with him. I hope these few words will serve to bless his body in some way.
Love and communion in Christ,
Karen
When The Light Spoke
When Paul had his life changing experience with the Light on his way to Damascus this is how he relates it:
And I fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to me, Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me?
And I replied, Who are You Lord?
And He said to me, I AM JESUS, the Nazarene, whom you are persecuting.
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I thought for sure that perhaps in another translation it would have said "I am Christ" since Paul's experience was after Jesus' ascension. So I diligently looked in several other translations and every one of them said, "I am Jesus".
So Paul's very first experience with the Christ, Christ introduced himself as Jesus....Jesus, in his blazing glorified light form...now, not Jesus the man, but Jesus as Christ and Lord.
Now Paul was killing believers and having both men and women put in prison and because Jesus so identifies with his Body that he, in essence, was telling Paul that to persecute them was to be persecuting him.
Since Jesus was made BOTH Christ and Lord in his glorification, that moved him into a universal position in scope and ability - "all power both in heaven and earth has been given unto me"....."As the Father has life in Himself, so it has been given to the son to have Life in himself." That says to me, that the son has matured to a place to step into the shoes of his father and act as him.
In his ascension he was restored to his glorious equality and privilege with the Father that he had forfeited to be made flesh. That qualifies him to actually impart Life or to father a generation which exceeds just being a pretty picture or pattern about it.
Now, the reason that I am always eager to lift up Christ Jesus is because that defines for us the kind of glory that we are called to. To me that is what the high calling of God in Christ Jesus is...."to have all power both in heaven and in earth".... to know as God knows, and to be empowered to do as God does.....power to love all creation, power to bless and deliver and bring heaven into our earth and establish the kingdom of God in this earth. Thank you our Father!
And I fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to me, Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me?
And I replied, Who are You Lord?
And He said to me, I AM JESUS, the Nazarene, whom you are persecuting.
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I thought for sure that perhaps in another translation it would have said "I am Christ" since Paul's experience was after Jesus' ascension. So I diligently looked in several other translations and every one of them said, "I am Jesus".
So Paul's very first experience with the Christ, Christ introduced himself as Jesus....Jesus, in his blazing glorified light form...now, not Jesus the man, but Jesus as Christ and Lord.
Now Paul was killing believers and having both men and women put in prison and because Jesus so identifies with his Body that he, in essence, was telling Paul that to persecute them was to be persecuting him.
Since Jesus was made BOTH Christ and Lord in his glorification, that moved him into a universal position in scope and ability - "all power both in heaven and earth has been given unto me"....."As the Father has life in Himself, so it has been given to the son to have Life in himself." That says to me, that the son has matured to a place to step into the shoes of his father and act as him.
In his ascension he was restored to his glorious equality and privilege with the Father that he had forfeited to be made flesh. That qualifies him to actually impart Life or to father a generation which exceeds just being a pretty picture or pattern about it.
Now, the reason that I am always eager to lift up Christ Jesus is because that defines for us the kind of glory that we are called to. To me that is what the high calling of God in Christ Jesus is...."to have all power both in heaven and in earth".... to know as God knows, and to be empowered to do as God does.....power to love all creation, power to bless and deliver and bring heaven into our earth and establish the kingdom of God in this earth. Thank you our Father!
Saturday, April 04, 2009
Mortal vs. Immortal
Someone asked some questions about putting on immortality and if our mortal was to be incorporated in this act.
I am posting this as a new thread as we seemed to be taking on a new theme of immortality in the other one on sickness.
Just for the short answer: mortal is a word for death....death-ridden, so no, I don't believe that death will have any part in our immortal beings.
Now for anyone to truly know everything there is to know about immortality of the body (not speaking of the spirit and soul) their mortal would have to be demonstrating what Jesus body in the resurrection was capable of. Mine isn't, so I can only speak what little I know, by revelation, not by experience.
I know that there have been catchings up into this dimension....there have been many spiritual spies that have spied out the land, as it were, and came back with glowing reports. I believe it is by faith we are now beholding Him, as He is being unveiled in our understandings, for He is who I Am in these fully realized dimensions. But as bodies walking this out in the earth, I believe we are occupying [holding the vision] in this realm until that coming in fullness is realized in our earth as it is in our heaven. This is the DE-scension of Christ INTO the flesh as opposed to just coming IN us as a hope as he did in Pentecost....our hope of glory. In other words, the hope is to be realized. The Glory of the Lord, fills or floods the temple(our bodies) as it did when Solomon's temple was dedicated and no man could stand to minister. Nothing of the flesh or death-ridden man will be left standing.
Every apostle taught and looked for a greater appearing or coming of the Lord.....all these admonitons were issued AFTER his coming at Pentecost. One of them assures us that he is coming to be glorified in his saints.
His coming at Pentecost, I believe, brought to his body the realization of Christ IN YOU, our hope of glory. Jesus prior to his death and resurrection, said, that it was his Father IN HIM that did the works. He knew it was not in his flesh man where the power resided.
Prior to his resurrection, in John 17, he requests to be glorified with his Fathers very own Self which suggests that prior to this time he was not glorified, but was walking as an anointed man.
What always has thrilled my heart is that I believe that the reason that Jesus did not pour out the gift of the Holy Spirit while walking as a man, was because he was not going reproduce himself as just more human bodies to be anointed, but would anoint us from the Highest Glories and pour out of his Spirit as a foretaste and downpayment of the highest dimensions that would produce for him a spiritual heritage that would be brought up to live from this glory. Through this first installment of glory or anointing we would begin to be taught of his ways and empowered to take up our cross and follow him all the way....all the way into the full realization of immortal life, spirit, soul and body.
(will try to share more about mortal vs. immortal later)...perhaps others have more insight to share with us too.
Grace and Glory to all!
Karen
Question was posed - Do you suppose that there will come a time when some of us will experience that immortality, that glorification and not die, because the Life filling us will swallow it up?
"The life filling us will swallow it up" Amen..When you plant a seed in the earth... that seed has to die to release the life germ that it has held within itself. Just so, the seed of life, the Christ planted in us is causing our old man, or shell or husk to die, in order that the full potential of life held in this seed can bloom into full expression bringing life to not only our soul or mind but our bodies as well, as I see it.
Joyful...what do you think that the word teaches in that regard? What do you think chapter 15 in 1Cor. is teaching us?
Quote: "The sect of the Pharisees, which Paul had been part of, taught and believed in the resurrection but Paul attempts to prove it by showing that there was one who demonstrated it, namely Jesus. And he went so far as to say to the Corinthian church, if they couldn't believe this, then their faith was devoid of truth and was just empty, imaginary and fruitless.
The Saducees denied there being any resurrection and took the Greek view that all matter was evil so it was a good thing to die and get rid of this evil body so we could obtain a spiritual one.
Rom. 5:12
12 Therefore just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, ON WHICH [eph ho] all sin.
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"We were not guilty of Adam's sin, but because he was the federal head of the human family, his sins were imputed to us making us legally guilty. So we received his penalty which was death....or being born mortal before any of us sinned. Man does not sin because he is born in sin, he sins because he has death in him. It causes man to be morally weak, or sick. [this mortality, manifests in our souls or minds, and in our bodies before we are resurrected in Christ]
The point is that Adam's transgression was reversed in Christ, whose righteousness and righteous act on the cross brought life to all of creation. Both acts were done outside of ourselves, not by our will. Likewise, even as we all shared in the consequences of Adam's sin before our wills had been formed, so also do we all share in the salvation brought about by Christ's righteous act, which was done apart from our wills. Just as Adam's sin resulted in every man's death, so also Christ's righteous act resulted in every man being given life in the end.
The only caveat given in 1 Cor. 15:23 is this: "but every man in his own order." Not all will appropriate immortality at the same time.
When Adam sinned, he and his wife and children were sold to pay the debt that he could not pay. In fact, his entire estate was sold to pay his debt, and it was still insufficient to pay the debt. Jesus spoke of this in a parable in Matt. 18:25,
25 But since he did not have the means to repay, his lord commanded him to be sold, along with his wife and children AND ALL THAT HE HAD, and repayment to be made.
Jesus came as the last Adam to reverse the curse and pay the full debt that Adam could not pay. In doing so, He redeemed not only Adam, but his wife and children (descendants) and the entire estate (the creation). Everything that was lost in Adam is redeemed in Christ. Hence, 1 John 2:2 says,
2 and He Himself is the propitiation [covering] for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world." Unquote
"Christ the Messiah is the first fruits, then those who are Christ's own will be resurrected at His coming.
After that comes the end (the completion) when He delivers over the kingdom to God the Father after rendering inoperative and abolishing every other rule and every authority and power.
For Christ must be King and reign until He has put all enemies under his feet.
The last enemy to be subdued and abolished is death."
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The following a comment made by Grace: I hesitated to put in my two cents, but I believe the scriptures teach the truth of coming into immortality without going by way of the grave. Rather than give my opinion, I will call to mind the scriptures that, to me, are very plain. Paul said "Behold I show you a mystery (a sacred secret). We shall not all sleep (die), but we shall all be changed, in a moment ( en atomos - in atoms)in the twinkling of an eye (the upward sweeping motion of the eye, meaning seeing in a higher dimension), at the last trump (aren't we hearing a message, a trumpet ? Paul said the last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. HOW can this take place?)
BY THE RENEWING OF YOUR MINDS.
Be ye transformed , changed (metamorphoo- that which happens to a caterpillar to turn it into a butterfly.
A powerful scripture relates to incorruptibility and immortality. 1 Cor. 15;:51-54, When this corruptible shall have put on incorruption and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying, Death is swallowed up in victory. That ties in with scriptures that talk about men of corrupt minds...so it seems corruption is in our minds. Be ye transformed (metamorphoo- that which happens to a caterpillar to turn it into a butterfly)
BY THE RENEWING OF YOUR MINDS.
For the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Jesus said at the raising of Lazarus from the dead,
Whosoever believeth in me,though he were dead,(has died) yet shall he live, and
whosoever liveth (has not died)and believeth in (into) me shall never (in no wise) die. Then he ask Martha if she believed what he said and she didn't understand. She said Yea Lord, I know that you are the Christ....) She did not comprehend what Jesus was saying, just like us today.
If death is the last enemy and Jesus defeated all our enemies, then who is going to believe that He conquered death?
Living and believing seemed to be the requirement that Jesus himself put coming into immortality. I repeat his words, "Whosoever liveth and believeth in (eis - into) me shall never die. Believeth thou this?" I ask myself, Do I believe this? I think we are afraid to believe...It has never happened except to Enoch and Elijah, why do I think it could happen to me? Why do we cry at funerals? Death has claimed another one. If we think we will be better off in some "heaven" why is death called an enemy and why are we sad at their passing?
Then we say, Bro. So and So believed in NEVER DIE and he died. Did he believe into it or did he believe the doctrine? I do not want to die and go to heaven. I want to live and see every enemy of Christ conquered in me. Hope this doesn't sound too harsh, but I want to see everything we inherited from Adam canceled in me you and the total victory of our Lord Jesus Christ be manifested in a people.
Perhaps there is a time element involved, I don't know. I think that the concept of a literal heaven off somewhere in the sky was so deep rooted in us that we couldn't understand, just like Martha. But the eyes of our understanding are being opened and as we continue to hear the truth within ourselves, somebody will break that barrier. Just like when the 4 minute mile was accomplished...after everybody believing it couldn't be done, many others broke it also. Jesus conquered death...who will be next?
From what I gather from the scriptures, the barriers are in the mind. If we are transformed by the renewing of the mind, what are the barriers in the mind that keep us in corruptibility and mortality? Death was the consequence of Adam's sin, the eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. One barrier is double mindedness, double vision, (if thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light). I realize that physical death is the result of living in the realm of the Adamic man. But, as in Adam all die, so in Christ shall all be made alive. If the first part of that is true, why not the last part? Are we in Christ? I believe that just as I was in Adam when he sinned, I was in Christ when he conquered the whole Adamic realm. Some say there is no process...then perhaps progress is a better word.
Jesus Christ is now my life. I have no right to claim anything else. If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature, old things have passed away and all things are becoming new.
I think the following is a pretty good word on immortality, Joyfulheart....I will share the link with you if you care to read it when you have time. After all, we can't talk about immortality without talking about Jesus our pattern and what an excellent example he was, not just to us, but for us.
You know, there have been some good people that may have laid there lives down for others before, as we know that Jesus surely did for the world, for Jesus died to his heavenly glory to become flesh for it was man that was given dominion in the earth in the beginning and fell from his glory, so Jesus became man to regain the dominion and glory in this earth and to bring mankind into immortality, which would give man authority BOTH in heaven and on earth....a state from which man would never again fall. I don't see where any other cultural or spiritual teacher was able to cancel death and bring all of creation into life and immortality even though they may have been cultural spiritual teachers....they are all dead themselves.
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.org/coldfusion/Chapter.cfm?CID=73
The following was my response made to someone who said they believed the Bible was written primarily for just the Jews and our belief in Jesus as the only Christ fails to recognize all the other "christs" which makes Christianity exclusionary or devisive.
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I, for one don't see the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ as exclusionary, but, quite the opposite, as completely inclusive. This is a Love that includes all of humanity, yea, all creation.
I see Jesus as a universal reference being, not just to the Jews, but to all mankind. And in his glorification he became a Life-giving Spirit to all....the collective consciousness of all was pierced and penetrated by the realized truth of a man that conquered death or is exempt from every kind of death in all its forms and acquired the keys of hell and death:
1 Tim 6:16
Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom [be] honor and power everlasting. Amen.
John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
John 6:33
For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
John 6:51
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
"In the same way that sin and death entered the world through one man, so one man's act of righteousness leads to right standing with God. So that as sin reigned in death, so grace might now reign by righteous which issues in eternal life through Jesus Christ, the, Anointed One, our Lord." Rom. 5
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"There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them [is] without signification." 1 Cor. 14
I believe there have been many different cultural spiritual teachers, other voices....teachers given to certain cultures that had spiritual truths to teach and followers that followed their teachings. I don't think we have to belittle whatever part many of them had to play in the plan of God, but I don't think it is a disservice to point out that they will not be able to bring you any higher than what they attained to even though they may have taught about it. You cannot give what you do not have to give.
But since this thread is about coming into physical immortality, the one that has been universally known to come into immortality and to attain to a level that exceeded his predecessors was Jesus, the Christ. He broke through all the limitations of death; spirit, soul and body.
I, personally, don't believe that Elijah or Enoch, even though they didn't see physical death, attained to the level of life and immortality that Jesus did, because:
"And so you can know and understand what is the immeasurable, unlimited, and surpassing greatness of His power and in the working of his mighty strength.
Which He exerted in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His own right hand in the heavenly.
Far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named - above every title that can be conferred- not only in this age and in this world, but also in the age and world to come.
And He has put all things under His feet and has appointed Him the universal and supreme head of the church..." Eph. 1
"[But he ascended?] Now what can this, He ascended, mean but that He had previously descended from the height of heaven into the depth, the lower parts of the earth?
(The lower parts of the earth....what would be the lowest depth of our earth? "the heart is desperately wicked, above all things, who can know it? He descended into the lowest hell of man)
He who descended is the very same as He who also has ascended high above all the heavens, that He [His Presence} might fill all things, the whole universe, from the lowest to the highest." Eph. 4
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Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama died and was cremated and his ashes were divided among five kings and his relics buried and pilgrimages are made to these sites.
Lao Tzu, believed author of the Tao ti Ching lived and died about 600 BC:
"Surprisingly enough, a story from Chuang-tzu still offers us details about Lao-tzu's death. The funerals of the master are described here, with many grieving disciples."
Confucius, famous Chinese philosopher died around 479 B.C
Muhammad founder of Islam, died June 8, 632 after Christ.
Just sharing these few to make a point about only being able to give what you have attained, not to disparage them as cultural teachers.
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At this time, although I may be mistaken, I don't think that immortality of the physical comes piecemeal, in other words, in first this one, and then in that one individually. I believe this resurrection into immortality is to be a corporate event just as it was on Pentecost. Jesus' return in the spirit manifested as a corporate event on a historical day. I see that likened unto breaking the sound barrier. (the sound of a rushing, mighty wind)
Once this truth was realized by a body of people, it opened the door for all to partake of this truth. So, if that serves as a pattern, then I see the corporate coming of the Lord in fullness, redeeming us into full salvation.... spirit, soul, and body to be a historical event that this time breaks the "light" barrier. It is accomplished in a people all together at once....and this people will no longer have their light hidden under the bushel of matter....just having the treasure in an earthen vessel. This vessel will be swallowed up in the Light of God. Our mortal, dying bodies are quickened and speeded up to the frequency of light that our head, Jesus has attained. (Equal immortality unto the kind of light that no man[carnal man] can approach) \o/
Grace, I just got on line this morning and saw your question. I really can't give a specific scripture about a group happening as you inquired about, that's why I added that I may be mistaken. I just have pondered on some of these things. We know that the scriptures speak of the birth of a Manchild into this earth....which of course, implies this birth is a fullgrown matured one, a man, not a baby.
That then leads me to ponder on how does any natural birth happen. Is it in piecemeal fashion? Is one arm born at one time and then at another time a foot, until all the parts are born?...and then they get put together? Well, I do see this formation taking place but not on the outside of the womb....but on the inside, during gestation.
The womb of time, has been our growing place...our gestation while growing and being formed in Christ, but I can see how that the birth would appear to me, at least in my present understanding, to be the emergence of a fully formed, fully connected child, or in this case, a fullgrown Man/child.
Not sharing absolutes here....just some of my ponderings.
In Genesis where it says God's days begin in the darkness and end in the light. ["the evening and the morning was the first day"] I see a pattern in that. I believe all creation while being formed into the Man in God's image that he declared in the beginning was his aim, that all creation has been in formation or gestation in the womb of time. All natural life begins in the darkness of the womb prior to mother finally delivering her fully formed child out into the light of day.
As I said, just some of my ponderings. Thank you for your thoughts too. And I too, believe that immortality already dwells within us...the immortal one lives in our earthen vessels, and the promise is that the glory of the Lord will cover all the earth...all of our earthen vessel. \o/
Until there is an understanding, which is outlined in the OT about the sacrifice of the two goats and the two doves, I believe there will be a misperception about the plan of God and our part in its fulfillment.
One sacrifice died literally, the other became the "living" sacrifice, in other words, the second one does not need to die literally...that was accomplished in the 1st sacrifice. (One died for all)
Once the veil has been penetrated - once the hymen has been broken, the way is opened - sorry for being graphic, but it just fits. Jesus was the last of the one man saviors, a friend of mine likes to say, but I would carry that one step further, he was the first and the last of the "one man saviors". He died once for all, there was no more need for a literal death sacrifice. That leaves the "living sacrifice" - US! We die too, but it is while we are walking around on two feet, as the living sacrifice. We die out to the corruption and unbelief of our minds.
Just listen a moment of how the resurrected Jesus spoke to the two brothers who were on their way to Emmaus and see if any of our conversations here sound somewhat similar:
Luke 24
"And while they were conversing and discussing together, Jesus Himself caught up with them and was already accompanying them.
But their eyes were held, so that they did not recognize Him.
And He said to them, What is this discussion that you are exchanging (throwing back and forth) between you as you walk along?
And [Jesus] said to them, O foolish ones and (sluggish in mind, dull of perception) - to adhere to and trust in EVERYTHING THAT THE PROPHETS HAVE SPOKEN!
THEN BEGINNING WITH MOSES, AND THROUGHOUT ALL THE PROPHETS, HE WENT ON EXPLAINING AND INTERPRETING TO THEM IN ALL THE SCRIPTURES THE THINGS CONCERNING AND REFERRING TO HIMSELF.
When their eyes were opened and they (clearly) recognized Him; He vanished.
And they said to one another, Was not our heart greatly moved and burning within us while He was talking with us on the road and AS HE OPENED AND EXPLAINED TO US THE SENSE OF THE SCRIPTURES.
A little later after returning to Jerusalem and meeting up with the eleven [apostles], Jesus appeared among them again and one of the things that he reiterated again was this:
"Then He said to them, This is what I told you while I was with you, that everything which is written concerning Me in the Law of Moses and the prophets and the Psalms MUST BE FULFILLED.
Then He (thoroughly) opened up their minds to understand the Scriptures.
"Leviticus 14 and 16, the two birds used in cleansing the leper, and the two goats of the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur). These two passages embody the laws regarding the two works of Christ.
As we will show, leprosy depicts our mortality, which we inherited from Adam, even as Paul says in Romans 5:12, “and so death spread to all men.” The two birds were used to cleanse lepers—that is, the two birds depict the two stages by which we are cleansed of mortality. The first bird was killed to provide a blood covering for the second bird. The first bird’s death imputed life to us, while the second bird, when released into the “field” (i.e., the world), will infuse us with inherent immortality and life.
As for the two goats in the ritual of the Day of Atonement, these deal not with the death question, but rather the sin question. Again, there are two stages by which our sin is eradicated. The first goat covered our sin; the second will remove it. We will show that the first goat (Christ) was killed in order to atone for (cover) our sin by His blood. The second goat was different in that it removed all sin to a land not inhabited. This shows us that the second coming of Christ will accomplish the removal of sin from our bodies." [my comment: this is the birth of the Manchild in us, the full-measure anointing - this is the child that is born in us through the union of a renewed soul and spirit as all corruption or death in our minds is put under foot.]
Now for all those who will say that we are already complete IN HIM...yes, absolutely, but do we not see that he desires to be made complete IN US as well.
I am posting this as a new thread as we seemed to be taking on a new theme of immortality in the other one on sickness.
Just for the short answer: mortal is a word for death....death-ridden, so no, I don't believe that death will have any part in our immortal beings.
Now for anyone to truly know everything there is to know about immortality of the body (not speaking of the spirit and soul) their mortal would have to be demonstrating what Jesus body in the resurrection was capable of. Mine isn't, so I can only speak what little I know, by revelation, not by experience.
I know that there have been catchings up into this dimension....there have been many spiritual spies that have spied out the land, as it were, and came back with glowing reports. I believe it is by faith we are now beholding Him, as He is being unveiled in our understandings, for He is who I Am in these fully realized dimensions. But as bodies walking this out in the earth, I believe we are occupying [holding the vision] in this realm until that coming in fullness is realized in our earth as it is in our heaven. This is the DE-scension of Christ INTO the flesh as opposed to just coming IN us as a hope as he did in Pentecost....our hope of glory. In other words, the hope is to be realized. The Glory of the Lord, fills or floods the temple(our bodies) as it did when Solomon's temple was dedicated and no man could stand to minister. Nothing of the flesh or death-ridden man will be left standing.
Every apostle taught and looked for a greater appearing or coming of the Lord.....all these admonitons were issued AFTER his coming at Pentecost. One of them assures us that he is coming to be glorified in his saints.
His coming at Pentecost, I believe, brought to his body the realization of Christ IN YOU, our hope of glory. Jesus prior to his death and resurrection, said, that it was his Father IN HIM that did the works. He knew it was not in his flesh man where the power resided.
Prior to his resurrection, in John 17, he requests to be glorified with his Fathers very own Self which suggests that prior to this time he was not glorified, but was walking as an anointed man.
What always has thrilled my heart is that I believe that the reason that Jesus did not pour out the gift of the Holy Spirit while walking as a man, was because he was not going reproduce himself as just more human bodies to be anointed, but would anoint us from the Highest Glories and pour out of his Spirit as a foretaste and downpayment of the highest dimensions that would produce for him a spiritual heritage that would be brought up to live from this glory. Through this first installment of glory or anointing we would begin to be taught of his ways and empowered to take up our cross and follow him all the way....all the way into the full realization of immortal life, spirit, soul and body.
(will try to share more about mortal vs. immortal later)...perhaps others have more insight to share with us too.
Grace and Glory to all!
Karen
Question was posed - Do you suppose that there will come a time when some of us will experience that immortality, that glorification and not die, because the Life filling us will swallow it up?
"The life filling us will swallow it up" Amen..When you plant a seed in the earth... that seed has to die to release the life germ that it has held within itself. Just so, the seed of life, the Christ planted in us is causing our old man, or shell or husk to die, in order that the full potential of life held in this seed can bloom into full expression bringing life to not only our soul or mind but our bodies as well, as I see it.
Joyful...what do you think that the word teaches in that regard? What do you think chapter 15 in 1Cor. is teaching us?
Quote: "The sect of the Pharisees, which Paul had been part of, taught and believed in the resurrection but Paul attempts to prove it by showing that there was one who demonstrated it, namely Jesus. And he went so far as to say to the Corinthian church, if they couldn't believe this, then their faith was devoid of truth and was just empty, imaginary and fruitless.
The Saducees denied there being any resurrection and took the Greek view that all matter was evil so it was a good thing to die and get rid of this evil body so we could obtain a spiritual one.
Rom. 5:12
12 Therefore just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, ON WHICH [eph ho] all sin.
Quote:
"We were not guilty of Adam's sin, but because he was the federal head of the human family, his sins were imputed to us making us legally guilty. So we received his penalty which was death....or being born mortal before any of us sinned. Man does not sin because he is born in sin, he sins because he has death in him. It causes man to be morally weak, or sick. [this mortality, manifests in our souls or minds, and in our bodies before we are resurrected in Christ]
The point is that Adam's transgression was reversed in Christ, whose righteousness and righteous act on the cross brought life to all of creation. Both acts were done outside of ourselves, not by our will. Likewise, even as we all shared in the consequences of Adam's sin before our wills had been formed, so also do we all share in the salvation brought about by Christ's righteous act, which was done apart from our wills. Just as Adam's sin resulted in every man's death, so also Christ's righteous act resulted in every man being given life in the end.
The only caveat given in 1 Cor. 15:23 is this: "but every man in his own order." Not all will appropriate immortality at the same time.
When Adam sinned, he and his wife and children were sold to pay the debt that he could not pay. In fact, his entire estate was sold to pay his debt, and it was still insufficient to pay the debt. Jesus spoke of this in a parable in Matt. 18:25,
25 But since he did not have the means to repay, his lord commanded him to be sold, along with his wife and children AND ALL THAT HE HAD, and repayment to be made.
Jesus came as the last Adam to reverse the curse and pay the full debt that Adam could not pay. In doing so, He redeemed not only Adam, but his wife and children (descendants) and the entire estate (the creation). Everything that was lost in Adam is redeemed in Christ. Hence, 1 John 2:2 says,
2 and He Himself is the propitiation [covering] for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world." Unquote
"Christ the Messiah is the first fruits, then those who are Christ's own will be resurrected at His coming.
After that comes the end (the completion) when He delivers over the kingdom to God the Father after rendering inoperative and abolishing every other rule and every authority and power.
For Christ must be King and reign until He has put all enemies under his feet.
The last enemy to be subdued and abolished is death."
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The following a comment made by Grace: I hesitated to put in my two cents, but I believe the scriptures teach the truth of coming into immortality without going by way of the grave. Rather than give my opinion, I will call to mind the scriptures that, to me, are very plain. Paul said "Behold I show you a mystery (a sacred secret). We shall not all sleep (die), but we shall all be changed, in a moment ( en atomos - in atoms)in the twinkling of an eye (the upward sweeping motion of the eye, meaning seeing in a higher dimension), at the last trump (aren't we hearing a message, a trumpet ? Paul said the last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. HOW can this take place?)
BY THE RENEWING OF YOUR MINDS.
Be ye transformed , changed (metamorphoo- that which happens to a caterpillar to turn it into a butterfly.
A powerful scripture relates to incorruptibility and immortality. 1 Cor. 15;:51-54, When this corruptible shall have put on incorruption and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying, Death is swallowed up in victory. That ties in with scriptures that talk about men of corrupt minds...so it seems corruption is in our minds. Be ye transformed (metamorphoo- that which happens to a caterpillar to turn it into a butterfly)
BY THE RENEWING OF YOUR MINDS.
For the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Jesus said at the raising of Lazarus from the dead,
Whosoever believeth in me,though he were dead,(has died) yet shall he live, and
whosoever liveth (has not died)and believeth in (into) me shall never (in no wise) die. Then he ask Martha if she believed what he said and she didn't understand. She said Yea Lord, I know that you are the Christ....) She did not comprehend what Jesus was saying, just like us today.
If death is the last enemy and Jesus defeated all our enemies, then who is going to believe that He conquered death?
Living and believing seemed to be the requirement that Jesus himself put coming into immortality. I repeat his words, "Whosoever liveth and believeth in (eis - into) me shall never die. Believeth thou this?" I ask myself, Do I believe this? I think we are afraid to believe...It has never happened except to Enoch and Elijah, why do I think it could happen to me? Why do we cry at funerals? Death has claimed another one. If we think we will be better off in some "heaven" why is death called an enemy and why are we sad at their passing?
Then we say, Bro. So and So believed in NEVER DIE and he died. Did he believe into it or did he believe the doctrine? I do not want to die and go to heaven. I want to live and see every enemy of Christ conquered in me. Hope this doesn't sound too harsh, but I want to see everything we inherited from Adam canceled in me you and the total victory of our Lord Jesus Christ be manifested in a people.
Perhaps there is a time element involved, I don't know. I think that the concept of a literal heaven off somewhere in the sky was so deep rooted in us that we couldn't understand, just like Martha. But the eyes of our understanding are being opened and as we continue to hear the truth within ourselves, somebody will break that barrier. Just like when the 4 minute mile was accomplished...after everybody believing it couldn't be done, many others broke it also. Jesus conquered death...who will be next?
From what I gather from the scriptures, the barriers are in the mind. If we are transformed by the renewing of the mind, what are the barriers in the mind that keep us in corruptibility and mortality? Death was the consequence of Adam's sin, the eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. One barrier is double mindedness, double vision, (if thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light). I realize that physical death is the result of living in the realm of the Adamic man. But, as in Adam all die, so in Christ shall all be made alive. If the first part of that is true, why not the last part? Are we in Christ? I believe that just as I was in Adam when he sinned, I was in Christ when he conquered the whole Adamic realm. Some say there is no process...then perhaps progress is a better word.
Jesus Christ is now my life. I have no right to claim anything else. If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature, old things have passed away and all things are becoming new.
I think the following is a pretty good word on immortality, Joyfulheart....I will share the link with you if you care to read it when you have time. After all, we can't talk about immortality without talking about Jesus our pattern and what an excellent example he was, not just to us, but for us.
You know, there have been some good people that may have laid there lives down for others before, as we know that Jesus surely did for the world, for Jesus died to his heavenly glory to become flesh for it was man that was given dominion in the earth in the beginning and fell from his glory, so Jesus became man to regain the dominion and glory in this earth and to bring mankind into immortality, which would give man authority BOTH in heaven and on earth....a state from which man would never again fall. I don't see where any other cultural or spiritual teacher was able to cancel death and bring all of creation into life and immortality even though they may have been cultural spiritual teachers....they are all dead themselves.
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.org/coldfusion/Chapter.cfm?CID=73
The following was my response made to someone who said they believed the Bible was written primarily for just the Jews and our belief in Jesus as the only Christ fails to recognize all the other "christs" which makes Christianity exclusionary or devisive.
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I, for one don't see the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ as exclusionary, but, quite the opposite, as completely inclusive. This is a Love that includes all of humanity, yea, all creation.
I see Jesus as a universal reference being, not just to the Jews, but to all mankind. And in his glorification he became a Life-giving Spirit to all....the collective consciousness of all was pierced and penetrated by the realized truth of a man that conquered death or is exempt from every kind of death in all its forms and acquired the keys of hell and death:
1 Tim 6:16
Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom [be] honor and power everlasting. Amen.
John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
John 6:33
For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.
John 6:51
I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
"In the same way that sin and death entered the world through one man, so one man's act of righteousness leads to right standing with God. So that as sin reigned in death, so grace might now reign by righteous which issues in eternal life through Jesus Christ, the, Anointed One, our Lord." Rom. 5
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"There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them [is] without signification." 1 Cor. 14
I believe there have been many different cultural spiritual teachers, other voices....teachers given to certain cultures that had spiritual truths to teach and followers that followed their teachings. I don't think we have to belittle whatever part many of them had to play in the plan of God, but I don't think it is a disservice to point out that they will not be able to bring you any higher than what they attained to even though they may have taught about it. You cannot give what you do not have to give.
But since this thread is about coming into physical immortality, the one that has been universally known to come into immortality and to attain to a level that exceeded his predecessors was Jesus, the Christ. He broke through all the limitations of death; spirit, soul and body.
I, personally, don't believe that Elijah or Enoch, even though they didn't see physical death, attained to the level of life and immortality that Jesus did, because:
"And so you can know and understand what is the immeasurable, unlimited, and surpassing greatness of His power and in the working of his mighty strength.
Which He exerted in Christ when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His own right hand in the heavenly.
Far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named - above every title that can be conferred- not only in this age and in this world, but also in the age and world to come.
And He has put all things under His feet and has appointed Him the universal and supreme head of the church..." Eph. 1
"[But he ascended?] Now what can this, He ascended, mean but that He had previously descended from the height of heaven into the depth, the lower parts of the earth?
(The lower parts of the earth....what would be the lowest depth of our earth? "the heart is desperately wicked, above all things, who can know it? He descended into the lowest hell of man)
He who descended is the very same as He who also has ascended high above all the heavens, that He [His Presence} might fill all things, the whole universe, from the lowest to the highest." Eph. 4
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Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama died and was cremated and his ashes were divided among five kings and his relics buried and pilgrimages are made to these sites.
Lao Tzu, believed author of the Tao ti Ching lived and died about 600 BC:
"Surprisingly enough, a story from Chuang-tzu still offers us details about Lao-tzu's death. The funerals of the master are described here, with many grieving disciples."
Confucius, famous Chinese philosopher died around 479 B.C
Muhammad founder of Islam, died June 8, 632 after Christ.
Just sharing these few to make a point about only being able to give what you have attained, not to disparage them as cultural teachers.
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At this time, although I may be mistaken, I don't think that immortality of the physical comes piecemeal, in other words, in first this one, and then in that one individually. I believe this resurrection into immortality is to be a corporate event just as it was on Pentecost. Jesus' return in the spirit manifested as a corporate event on a historical day. I see that likened unto breaking the sound barrier. (the sound of a rushing, mighty wind)
Once this truth was realized by a body of people, it opened the door for all to partake of this truth. So, if that serves as a pattern, then I see the corporate coming of the Lord in fullness, redeeming us into full salvation.... spirit, soul, and body to be a historical event that this time breaks the "light" barrier. It is accomplished in a people all together at once....and this people will no longer have their light hidden under the bushel of matter....just having the treasure in an earthen vessel. This vessel will be swallowed up in the Light of God. Our mortal, dying bodies are quickened and speeded up to the frequency of light that our head, Jesus has attained. (Equal immortality unto the kind of light that no man[carnal man] can approach) \o/
Grace, I just got on line this morning and saw your question. I really can't give a specific scripture about a group happening as you inquired about, that's why I added that I may be mistaken. I just have pondered on some of these things. We know that the scriptures speak of the birth of a Manchild into this earth....which of course, implies this birth is a fullgrown matured one, a man, not a baby.
That then leads me to ponder on how does any natural birth happen. Is it in piecemeal fashion? Is one arm born at one time and then at another time a foot, until all the parts are born?...and then they get put together? Well, I do see this formation taking place but not on the outside of the womb....but on the inside, during gestation.
The womb of time, has been our growing place...our gestation while growing and being formed in Christ, but I can see how that the birth would appear to me, at least in my present understanding, to be the emergence of a fully formed, fully connected child, or in this case, a fullgrown Man/child.
Not sharing absolutes here....just some of my ponderings.
In Genesis where it says God's days begin in the darkness and end in the light. ["the evening and the morning was the first day"] I see a pattern in that. I believe all creation while being formed into the Man in God's image that he declared in the beginning was his aim, that all creation has been in formation or gestation in the womb of time. All natural life begins in the darkness of the womb prior to mother finally delivering her fully formed child out into the light of day.
As I said, just some of my ponderings. Thank you for your thoughts too. And I too, believe that immortality already dwells within us...the immortal one lives in our earthen vessels, and the promise is that the glory of the Lord will cover all the earth...all of our earthen vessel. \o/
Until there is an understanding, which is outlined in the OT about the sacrifice of the two goats and the two doves, I believe there will be a misperception about the plan of God and our part in its fulfillment.
One sacrifice died literally, the other became the "living" sacrifice, in other words, the second one does not need to die literally...that was accomplished in the 1st sacrifice. (One died for all)
Once the veil has been penetrated - once the hymen has been broken, the way is opened - sorry for being graphic, but it just fits. Jesus was the last of the one man saviors, a friend of mine likes to say, but I would carry that one step further, he was the first and the last of the "one man saviors". He died once for all, there was no more need for a literal death sacrifice. That leaves the "living sacrifice" - US! We die too, but it is while we are walking around on two feet, as the living sacrifice. We die out to the corruption and unbelief of our minds.
Just listen a moment of how the resurrected Jesus spoke to the two brothers who were on their way to Emmaus and see if any of our conversations here sound somewhat similar:
Luke 24
"And while they were conversing and discussing together, Jesus Himself caught up with them and was already accompanying them.
But their eyes were held, so that they did not recognize Him.
And He said to them, What is this discussion that you are exchanging (throwing back and forth) between you as you walk along?
And [Jesus] said to them, O foolish ones and (sluggish in mind, dull of perception) - to adhere to and trust in EVERYTHING THAT THE PROPHETS HAVE SPOKEN!
THEN BEGINNING WITH MOSES, AND THROUGHOUT ALL THE PROPHETS, HE WENT ON EXPLAINING AND INTERPRETING TO THEM IN ALL THE SCRIPTURES THE THINGS CONCERNING AND REFERRING TO HIMSELF.
When their eyes were opened and they (clearly) recognized Him; He vanished.
And they said to one another, Was not our heart greatly moved and burning within us while He was talking with us on the road and AS HE OPENED AND EXPLAINED TO US THE SENSE OF THE SCRIPTURES.
A little later after returning to Jerusalem and meeting up with the eleven [apostles], Jesus appeared among them again and one of the things that he reiterated again was this:
"Then He said to them, This is what I told you while I was with you, that everything which is written concerning Me in the Law of Moses and the prophets and the Psalms MUST BE FULFILLED.
Then He (thoroughly) opened up their minds to understand the Scriptures.
"Leviticus 14 and 16, the two birds used in cleansing the leper, and the two goats of the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur). These two passages embody the laws regarding the two works of Christ.
As we will show, leprosy depicts our mortality, which we inherited from Adam, even as Paul says in Romans 5:12, “and so death spread to all men.” The two birds were used to cleanse lepers—that is, the two birds depict the two stages by which we are cleansed of mortality. The first bird was killed to provide a blood covering for the second bird. The first bird’s death imputed life to us, while the second bird, when released into the “field” (i.e., the world), will infuse us with inherent immortality and life.
As for the two goats in the ritual of the Day of Atonement, these deal not with the death question, but rather the sin question. Again, there are two stages by which our sin is eradicated. The first goat covered our sin; the second will remove it. We will show that the first goat (Christ) was killed in order to atone for (cover) our sin by His blood. The second goat was different in that it removed all sin to a land not inhabited. This shows us that the second coming of Christ will accomplish the removal of sin from our bodies." [my comment: this is the birth of the Manchild in us, the full-measure anointing - this is the child that is born in us through the union of a renewed soul and spirit as all corruption or death in our minds is put under foot.]
Now for all those who will say that we are already complete IN HIM...yes, absolutely, but do we not see that he desires to be made complete IN US as well.
The Magnificent Math
by Bonnie Gaunt
from Jesus Christ: The Number of His Name
There is another aspect of the City of God that is described in Revelation as the New Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven. The picture is of a glorious kingdom that comes down and engulfs the whole earth in one harmonious whole, both heavenly and earthly. The Apostle John described this New Jerusalem as The Bride, the completed company of the saints of God, who recieve their new married name, "And I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the City of my God, the New Jerusalem." Rev. 3:12
The gematria of this text is, 10656.
10656 = And I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the City of my God, the New Jerusalem.
"Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb. And he carried me away in the spirit to a mountain great and high and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. Ity had a grea, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the name of the twelve tribes of Israel. There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west. The wall of the city had twelve foundations and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb." Rev. 21: 9-14
Thus the city is described as having twelve gates, bearing the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. And it had twelve foundations, bearing the names of the twelve apostles. In Revelation 7 is described a Lamb standing on Mount Zion and with him were 12,000 from each of the tribes of Israel. When we add the gematria for the names of the twelve tribes listed there, then multiply by 12,000, the total becomes 10,656. And when we add the gematria for the names of the twelve apostles, they also total 10, 656. It carries us far beyond the possibility of coincidence. That number was planned from the beginning to represent the completed work of God.
The names of the twelve tribes of Israel, as listed in Rev. 7, are as follows:
Judah = 485
Rueben= 630
Gad = 8
Asher = 309
Nepthalim = 650
Manasses = 700
Simeon = 1495
Levi = 445
Issachar = 112
Zebulon = 1360
Joseph = 1518
Benjamin = 168
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8880
There has been "no cutting and fitting" to make the numbers work. The names, as shown above are the way in which they are spelled in the a Thayer Greek Lexicon. The total, 10656 represents the completed work of God, the New Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God and engulfing the whole world. (my comment, and also our individual world of spirit, soul and body)
The city not only had twelve gates, bearing the names of the twelve tribes of Israel, just like Ezekiel's city, but it also had twelve foundations, bearing the names of the twelve apostles. The gematria of their names also adds to 10656. This amazing fact carries us far beyond the realm of coincidence and into the realm of the magnificient works of God.
Peter = 755
Andrew = 361
James = 1103
John = 1119
Philip = 980
Nathanael = 150
Levi = 445
Thomas = 1050
James
(son of Alpheus) = 2115
Labbaeus
(Thaddeus) = 320
Simon
the Canannite = 1573
Judas = 685
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10656
by Bonnie Gaunt
from Beginnings, the Sacred Design
Each of the colors of white light are determined by the length of the light wave. The units commonly used for this measurement are the millimicron, which equals one millionth of a millimeter; and the Angstrom unit (A.U.), which is one ten millionth of a millimeter. In the table below I have converted these to inches.
Millimicron A.U. Inch
Red 710 7100 .00000284
Orange 620 6200 .00000248
Yellow 570 5700 .00000228
Green 520 5200 .00000208
Blue 470 4700 .00000188
Violet 410 4100 .00000164
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aggregate .00001320
These numbers are derived from the center of each color range, giving the truest color.
When these colors are combined in the precisely proper amounts, all apparent color disappears, and the result is white. When all the lengths of the light waves are added, the aggregate is .00001320 of an inch. This number 132 is the addition of the letter-numbers for the word white in Hebrew. It is a number that is basic to the number code of the Creator, as we shall see in the next chapter.
The visible white light from the Sun is the means of all life on Earth. It beautifully represents the Elohim, the Creator. And not surprisingly its spectrum of color bears the numbers of his name.
RED .00000284
284 God, (Theos)
2840 The God of our fathers (Acts 3:13)
2840 I form the light, I create darkness; I make
peace, and create evil; I the Lord do all these
things. (Isa. 45:7)
ORANGE .00000248
248 The image of God (Genesis 1:27)
YELLOW .00000228
228 The Lord God Most High
228 Firstborn (Psa. 89:27)
GREEN .00000208
208 The Most High (one Gk. spelling)
BLUE .00000188
188 The Beauty of Jehovah
1880 The Most High (another Gk. spelling)
VIOLET .00000164
164 God the Great King
The Sun, the source of light, energy on Earth, aptly represents the true source of life, the Elohim. The solar number 864, is also the number for God, 864. The New Jerusalem also bears the solar number.
864,000 miles - the diameter of the Sun
864 God
864 Jerusalem
864 The word of the Lord from Jerusalem
(Micah 4:2)
If we were to enclose the Sun within a cube, as the design of the New Jerusalem shows, the perimeter of the square would be 3,456,000 miles. The number 3,456 is the gematria of the Old and the New Testaments, both by addition and multiplication shows the all-inclusive completness - the ultimate magnitude - of all the works of God, from the beginning to the fullness of the New Beginning.
The sum of the numbers 3+4+5+6 is 18, 1 & 8 - the numbers of beginning and new beginning. The multiplication of the digits is 3x4x5x6 is 3600. The circle has always been defined as 360 degrees. This magnificent circle, representing all the works of the beginning nd the new beginning, multiplies to 144(12 squared)
144 circle (Gk.)
The Universe, as we know it, began about 15 billion years ago from a singularity. But the true Singularity that preceded it is the One who bears the number 1 - the Beginner, the Designer. I stand in awe of the beauty of the Design!
I just received the two books that I mentioned above by Bonnie Gaunt (from Amazon), so I have not read them all yet, but have perused some of the upcoming material, such as, the Golden Proportion which I believe is also called the Golden Mean, and the The Grand Octave, how that the musical scale is a picture of the days of creation, and the 8th note begins the scale all over again, but at a higher sound or new beginning. Then one of the books covers the other two witnesses in the earth (besides Solomon's temple), the Great Pyramid, and Stonehenge. The Bible in Isaiah mentions the "stone witness" at the border of Egypt. Then Jeremiah was known to travel to the British Isles and he mentions the signs and wonders that were in Egypt and "among other men." These three earthly witnesses all intricately bear the number of the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Hallelujah, and if his name is there, you can find yours there too!
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Of all the feasts and celebrations that God gave to ancient Israel, the Feast of Tabernacles was the only one that had an octave.
By the end of the seventh day, the joy and excitement of the people reached its climax, but a hush fell over the crowds gathered in the streets, as the choir of the Levites began to sing the Hallel (consisting of Psa. 113 through 118), finishing with the song of thanks to God for his salvation:
"Open for me the gates of righteousness; I will enter and give thanks to the Lord. This is the gate of the Lord through which the righteous may enter. I will give you thank, for you answered me; you have become my salvation....This is the day the Lord has made; let us rejoice and be glad in it."
Before the sun began to set, the people who had been living in booths for seven days, began to return to their homes and prepare for the feast of the great 8th day. It was now 186 days since the first pilgrim festival of their year, the Passover. Their yearly festivals were coming to a close. There was one more day, yet to be celebrated - the feast of the great 8th day. It was sometimes called The Day of Conclusion, (which adds up to 816).
The interplay of the numbers 1, 6 and 8 form an intergral part of this final festival of the year. The counting of the days from Passover to the end of the seventh day of the Feast of Tabernacles was 186 days. The seventh day was called, The Last Day of the Feast of Tabernalces, and its letter-numbers add to 681. This interplay of numbers is not unusual in the gematria of the scriptures. Numbers are often reversed or arranged in a different order, thus here, the number 186 and 681 are simply a reversal. Just as the Hebrew text reads from right to left, and the Greek text reads from left to right, so the numbers can also read either way, and are so used many times in scriptures.
Jesus, the Passover Lamb
died on Nisan 14 on Calvary,
which is called Golgotha
v
v
v 186 days (inclusive)
v
v
v
End of 7th day and
beginning of the
8th day of the Feast
of Tabernacles
301= Calvary
301= Lambs
301= He is the Rock
301= Lampstand
301x.618(golden proportion)=186
186= Golgotha
186= It is finished (Rev. 16:17)
186= And there shall be no more curse (Rev.22:3)
186,000 mps, speed of light
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The anagrams of 186 and the beginning of the
Great Eighth Day
186,000 mps, Speed of Light
186= It is finished (Rev. 16:17)
186= And there shall be no more curse
186= Forever (Isa. 64:4)
186= According to His image, (Gen. 5:3)(By the
beginningof the Great 8th Day man will once
again be in the image of God, just as Adam
was before he sinned)
681= The Last Day of the Feast of Tabernacles
681= Perfect (complete)
816= The Day of Conclusion (8th Day of the Feast
of Tabernacles)
816= His Dominion
861=Eternity
861= Very early in the morning (the morning of that
Great 8th Day)
168= In His Image (Gen. 1:27)(Man will once again
be in His image by the beginning of the Great
8th Day)
1680= Christ
10608= And he showed me a pure river of water of
life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the
throne of God and of the Lamb. (Rev. 22:1) A
picture of the the blessings of life in the Great
8th Day.
.618 is the Golden Proportion
618= The Lord shall be King over all the earth
(Zec. 14:9)
from Jesus Christ: The Number of His Name
There is another aspect of the City of God that is described in Revelation as the New Jerusalem that comes down out of heaven. The picture is of a glorious kingdom that comes down and engulfs the whole earth in one harmonious whole, both heavenly and earthly. The Apostle John described this New Jerusalem as The Bride, the completed company of the saints of God, who recieve their new married name, "And I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the City of my God, the New Jerusalem." Rev. 3:12
The gematria of this text is, 10656.
10656 = And I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the City of my God, the New Jerusalem.
"Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb. And he carried me away in the spirit to a mountain great and high and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. Ity had a grea, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the name of the twelve tribes of Israel. There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west. The wall of the city had twelve foundations and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb." Rev. 21: 9-14
Thus the city is described as having twelve gates, bearing the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. And it had twelve foundations, bearing the names of the twelve apostles. In Revelation 7 is described a Lamb standing on Mount Zion and with him were 12,000 from each of the tribes of Israel. When we add the gematria for the names of the twelve tribes listed there, then multiply by 12,000, the total becomes 10,656. And when we add the gematria for the names of the twelve apostles, they also total 10, 656. It carries us far beyond the possibility of coincidence. That number was planned from the beginning to represent the completed work of God.
The names of the twelve tribes of Israel, as listed in Rev. 7, are as follows:
Judah = 485
Rueben= 630
Gad = 8
Asher = 309
Nepthalim = 650
Manasses = 700
Simeon = 1495
Levi = 445
Issachar = 112
Zebulon = 1360
Joseph = 1518
Benjamin = 168
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8880
There has been "no cutting and fitting" to make the numbers work. The names, as shown above are the way in which they are spelled in the a Thayer Greek Lexicon. The total, 10656 represents the completed work of God, the New Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God and engulfing the whole world. (my comment, and also our individual world of spirit, soul and body)
The city not only had twelve gates, bearing the names of the twelve tribes of Israel, just like Ezekiel's city, but it also had twelve foundations, bearing the names of the twelve apostles. The gematria of their names also adds to 10656. This amazing fact carries us far beyond the realm of coincidence and into the realm of the magnificient works of God.
Peter = 755
Andrew = 361
James = 1103
John = 1119
Philip = 980
Nathanael = 150
Levi = 445
Thomas = 1050
James
(son of Alpheus) = 2115
Labbaeus
(Thaddeus) = 320
Simon
the Canannite = 1573
Judas = 685
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10656
by Bonnie Gaunt
from Beginnings, the Sacred Design
Each of the colors of white light are determined by the length of the light wave. The units commonly used for this measurement are the millimicron, which equals one millionth of a millimeter; and the Angstrom unit (A.U.), which is one ten millionth of a millimeter. In the table below I have converted these to inches.
Millimicron A.U. Inch
Red 710 7100 .00000284
Orange 620 6200 .00000248
Yellow 570 5700 .00000228
Green 520 5200 .00000208
Blue 470 4700 .00000188
Violet 410 4100 .00000164
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aggregate .00001320
These numbers are derived from the center of each color range, giving the truest color.
When these colors are combined in the precisely proper amounts, all apparent color disappears, and the result is white. When all the lengths of the light waves are added, the aggregate is .00001320 of an inch. This number 132 is the addition of the letter-numbers for the word white in Hebrew. It is a number that is basic to the number code of the Creator, as we shall see in the next chapter.
The visible white light from the Sun is the means of all life on Earth. It beautifully represents the Elohim, the Creator. And not surprisingly its spectrum of color bears the numbers of his name.
RED .00000284
284 God, (Theos)
2840 The God of our fathers (Acts 3:13)
2840 I form the light, I create darkness; I make
peace, and create evil; I the Lord do all these
things. (Isa. 45:7)
ORANGE .00000248
248 The image of God (Genesis 1:27)
YELLOW .00000228
228 The Lord God Most High
228 Firstborn (Psa. 89:27)
GREEN .00000208
208 The Most High (one Gk. spelling)
BLUE .00000188
188 The Beauty of Jehovah
1880 The Most High (another Gk. spelling)
VIOLET .00000164
164 God the Great King
The Sun, the source of light, energy on Earth, aptly represents the true source of life, the Elohim. The solar number 864, is also the number for God, 864. The New Jerusalem also bears the solar number.
864,000 miles - the diameter of the Sun
864 God
864 Jerusalem
864 The word of the Lord from Jerusalem
(Micah 4:2)
If we were to enclose the Sun within a cube, as the design of the New Jerusalem shows, the perimeter of the square would be 3,456,000 miles. The number 3,456 is the gematria of the Old and the New Testaments, both by addition and multiplication shows the all-inclusive completness - the ultimate magnitude - of all the works of God, from the beginning to the fullness of the New Beginning.
The sum of the numbers 3+4+5+6 is 18, 1 & 8 - the numbers of beginning and new beginning. The multiplication of the digits is 3x4x5x6 is 3600. The circle has always been defined as 360 degrees. This magnificent circle, representing all the works of the beginning nd the new beginning, multiplies to 144(12 squared)
144 circle (Gk.)
The Universe, as we know it, began about 15 billion years ago from a singularity. But the true Singularity that preceded it is the One who bears the number 1 - the Beginner, the Designer. I stand in awe of the beauty of the Design!
I just received the two books that I mentioned above by Bonnie Gaunt (from Amazon), so I have not read them all yet, but have perused some of the upcoming material, such as, the Golden Proportion which I believe is also called the Golden Mean, and the The Grand Octave, how that the musical scale is a picture of the days of creation, and the 8th note begins the scale all over again, but at a higher sound or new beginning. Then one of the books covers the other two witnesses in the earth (besides Solomon's temple), the Great Pyramid, and Stonehenge. The Bible in Isaiah mentions the "stone witness" at the border of Egypt. Then Jeremiah was known to travel to the British Isles and he mentions the signs and wonders that were in Egypt and "among other men." These three earthly witnesses all intricately bear the number of the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Hallelujah, and if his name is there, you can find yours there too!
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Of all the feasts and celebrations that God gave to ancient Israel, the Feast of Tabernacles was the only one that had an octave.
By the end of the seventh day, the joy and excitement of the people reached its climax, but a hush fell over the crowds gathered in the streets, as the choir of the Levites began to sing the Hallel (consisting of Psa. 113 through 118), finishing with the song of thanks to God for his salvation:
"Open for me the gates of righteousness; I will enter and give thanks to the Lord. This is the gate of the Lord through which the righteous may enter. I will give you thank, for you answered me; you have become my salvation....This is the day the Lord has made; let us rejoice and be glad in it."
Before the sun began to set, the people who had been living in booths for seven days, began to return to their homes and prepare for the feast of the great 8th day. It was now 186 days since the first pilgrim festival of their year, the Passover. Their yearly festivals were coming to a close. There was one more day, yet to be celebrated - the feast of the great 8th day. It was sometimes called The Day of Conclusion, (which adds up to 816).
The interplay of the numbers 1, 6 and 8 form an intergral part of this final festival of the year. The counting of the days from Passover to the end of the seventh day of the Feast of Tabernacles was 186 days. The seventh day was called, The Last Day of the Feast of Tabernalces, and its letter-numbers add to 681. This interplay of numbers is not unusual in the gematria of the scriptures. Numbers are often reversed or arranged in a different order, thus here, the number 186 and 681 are simply a reversal. Just as the Hebrew text reads from right to left, and the Greek text reads from left to right, so the numbers can also read either way, and are so used many times in scriptures.
Jesus, the Passover Lamb
died on Nisan 14 on Calvary,
which is called Golgotha
v
v
v 186 days (inclusive)
v
v
v
End of 7th day and
beginning of the
8th day of the Feast
of Tabernacles
301= Calvary
301= Lambs
301= He is the Rock
301= Lampstand
301x.618(golden proportion)=186
186= Golgotha
186= It is finished (Rev. 16:17)
186= And there shall be no more curse (Rev.22:3)
186,000 mps, speed of light
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The anagrams of 186 and the beginning of the
Great Eighth Day
186,000 mps, Speed of Light
186= It is finished (Rev. 16:17)
186= And there shall be no more curse
186= Forever (Isa. 64:4)
186= According to His image, (Gen. 5:3)(By the
beginningof the Great 8th Day man will once
again be in the image of God, just as Adam
was before he sinned)
681= The Last Day of the Feast of Tabernacles
681= Perfect (complete)
816= The Day of Conclusion (8th Day of the Feast
of Tabernacles)
816= His Dominion
861=Eternity
861= Very early in the morning (the morning of that
Great 8th Day)
168= In His Image (Gen. 1:27)(Man will once again
be in His image by the beginning of the Great
8th Day)
1680= Christ
10608= And he showed me a pure river of water of
life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the
throne of God and of the Lamb. (Rev. 22:1) A
picture of the the blessings of life in the Great
8th Day.
.618 is the Golden Proportion
618= The Lord shall be King over all the earth
(Zec. 14:9)
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