2 Peter 3
In these verses, Peter speaks of the the three heavens and earth:
"That by the word of God the heavens of old.....
the world that then was overflowed with water, perished:
But the heavens and the earth that are now, but the same word are kept in store......"
2 Peter 5:13
Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for a new heaven and earth.
Peter is not just referring to the flood, but to the chaos between Gen. 1:1 and 1:2
We were chosen in Christ before the foundation (casting down or disruption) of the world. "In the beginnings God created the heaven and the earth." The word is more correctly translated 'beginnings' with an 's'. There is more than one beginning.
The heavens were created first - God is the father of spirits. This is the invisible-spiritual realm - the ruling realm. Life is invisible. It existed long before it was made visible. When God created the first heaven and earth, He simply spoke a WORD, and it was done complete and whole. Psa. 33:9
The Word is Christ, Annointed Spirit which is God. Christ is the Image and Form of God, but yet invisible to human eyes.
Col 1:15 "The exact likeness of the unseen God, the visible representation of the invisible."
He is also the ANGEL of God's presence. Ex. 32:34 This is Christ in angelic form in order to be visible to Moses, but this was not Jesus! His body had not yet been formed in the womb of Mary.
There was a race or species of angelic men long before our present heaven and earth was created which lived between Gen. 1:1 and Gen. 1:2. "In the beginnings God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was without form and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit moved upon the face of the waters. And God said: "Let there be light, and there was light."
We believe that "face" of the "deep" and "face" of the "waters" speak of the conscious or sub-conscious minds of intelligent beings able to hear and obey the Word of God if we compare spiritual with spiritual in interpreting this.
So, as we were saying, Peter is referring to the chaos between these two verses when he tells of the first heavens and the earth perishing. Comparing this with Jeremiah 4:23-25, who also spoke of this disaster, "I beheld and lo there was no man." In the flood there were eight souls that had not perished. The world that we have today is actually the second heavens and earth. But we are looking for new heavens and earth in which dwelleth righteousness - the third heaven and earth.
Going back to Gen. 1:2, God did not leave this heaven and earth in this chaotic condition. We read that the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the Deep. "Face" speaks of intelligence and "Deep" speaks of the unconscious realm. God is speaking to beings that are able to respond. In Revelations "water" speaks of a multitude. God is always the first Mover in the restoration of his creatures. "God said, let there be light -- and there was light." Spirit speaking to spirit.
This is an allegory describing our own awakening. Christ within is the first mover. He moves upon our unconscious mind, awakening our memory to who we once were in God. Christ awakens our inherent or pre-birth wisdom lying dormant within us causing us to "come to ourself" as the prodigal son "came to himself". "I will arise and go to my father." So we remember our Father.
"By faith are ye saved, and that not of yourself, it is the gift of God". This takes up back to the very beginning, before there was anything, no-thing, just Spirit thought, or God's Idea.
Before time began we were a thought in the mind of God. We were chosen in Christ before the foundation (disruption or casting down) of the world.
The Word-Christ or the Christ-Word is God's Creative Orginal the Concorant Literal Version calls him. The beginning of the creation of God when God spoke forth his own Son out of his bosom, conceived in thought, and now expressed and manifested in image and form.
He is the First Born of every creature and is also the First Born from the dead, therefore he is the head of both
The Old and the New Creation. He/We are the orginal creative power through which God created all things: all authorities, rulers, and kingdoms, visible and invisible: all came into existance through the SPOKEN WORD-CHRIST, all was created in him and through and for him and he is holding all things together and reconciling all things unto himself, in Him, I say, whether things in Earth or in Heaven.
Col. 1:20
All things natural and spiritual are created in and through and for Christ. He is the center and circumference of all things. There is No-thing outside of Christ. God's creative orginal or First-born of every creature or living thing - giving life to all things. A "thing" is spirit made visible. Even his visible body is called "The Holy Thing" when formed in the womb of Mary.
A few thoughts by our dear Sis. Dora Van Assen with a few of mine mingled in.
Love and blessings,
Karen
"Every individual who becomes a clear and undiluted channel for eternal love into these times offsets a thousand who remain locked in the dissolving values of the old."
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I definitely believe that Paul was caught ahead when he speaks of being caught up to the third heaven.
He saw and heard things of the New Heaven and the New Earth.....or what really constitutes the New Creation Man and also probably what he saw this New Creation Man doing creatively......
This Third Day Perfected Body that Jesus spoke of.
David, in the OT was a shadow and type of this ministry when he ate of the shewbread that was only lawful for the priests to do. So, it was by grace that he was allowed to eat of the shewbread. He became the King and through this act of grace he was prophetically showing forth the King/Priest ministry that was yet to come.
He was, in fact, reaching into an age to come and tasting of the powers of that world.
I believe that was what Paul was doing too.
I believe that Jesus came from our future to show us what a finished Son of God is all about. He was showing the house unto the house. We got to see ourself in finished form before we ever walked it out in form for ourself. That is why he said, "deny yourself and take up your cross and follow him.".....he knew it would lead us into our True Self.
So, we have had some 'catching up' to do.....some catching up with Ourself.....so we could manifest at-one-ment.
Love, Karen
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