Enlarging Your Definiton of Self

"Imagine enlarging your definition of self to include all of life."

Ron your comments by Dr. Keck made me think of a writing by a friend of mine, a friend that actually practiced meditations where he would start with himself and then begin to see his energy field expand out enveloping his immediate space, then his neighborhood, his town, his state, our country, our world, our universe etc.... so I will share some excerpts from his thoughts:

Full-On Energy Hookup

The resistance we have built up as ego and body to create a 'them' and 'me' perspective must be released to accept a full flow of all-there-is-energy and transform. On my bike ride to day our Self was showing me the energy acceleration we need to exhibit our light form comes from a full-on link up with all the energy in the multiverses. Total unconditional acceptance of all the energy. This energy flow will accelerate all our physical cells, break down the pattern that imprisons them, and set us free.

"It is the merging of your inner and outer reality. You already 'know' you are the inner Self looking through those eyeballs but you are also the outer you. You are the all the observers (all inner beings) and you are all the observed ( all creation). You can look your Self in the face in everyOne you meet. All creation is waiting for this acknowledgement - this connection. The experience of this is the 'union'." End Quote

If transfiguration is a full-on energy hookup with All Of Ourself, Our True Self, Our Christ Self, WOW, guys. As we let go of our resistances we will enter into the full-on "glorious liberty of the sons of God" without measure"! And yes, creation is waiting for the acknowledgement that you see them for who they really are. They feel what vibration you are coming from - love or judgement- no matter what your words are, the spirit of either love or judgement is conveyed and picked up by their spirit, even if it is only the weather you may be talking about. If it is love and recognition of the Christ in them, there is a true energy exchange going on in the spirit and "My Lord will say unto My Lord" reality happens and we actually are those life-giving spirits.

Energetically yours,
Karen

The Seal Breaker

Rev. 5

"And I saw lying on the open hand of Him Who was seated on the throne a (book) scroll written within and on the back, [that infers both inside and outside]closed and sealed with seven seals.


We are the seven-sealed book of life in the hand of our God and we have life and instruction and purpose written both inside and outside of us. We have an inner kingdom and relationship with our God where the secrets of his heart are made known to us and we are coded to become an outward manifestation of this inward glory too.

And I saw a strong angel announcing in a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the scroll? And - who is entitled and is morally fit - to break its seals?

And no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth was able to open the scroll or to take a [single] look at its contents.

And I wept bitterly because no one was found fit to open the scroll or to inspect it.

Then one of the elders [of the heavenly sanhedrin] said to me, Stop weeping! See, the LION of the tribe of Judah, the Root (Source) of David, has won - has overcome and conquered! He can open the scroll and break its SEVEN SEALS!


This is the first attribute of one who is worthy to open the seals...he is Lionlike....He is Kingly....he has authority! This first command to John was to look and see a Lion.

And there between the throne and the four living creatures (beings) and among the elders, I saw a Lamb standing as though it had been slain, with SEVEN horns and SEVEN eyes, which are the SEVEN Spirits of God [that is the sevenfold Holy Spirit] Who have been sent [on duty far and wide] into all the earth.

But when John looks, what does he see? He sees a slain Lamb standing....with seven eyes and seven horns.....eyes that can penetrate into the depths of every aspect of our earth and see our pre-birth wisdom and not only see it but loosen it into resurrection life, quickening, speeding up our vibrations to a higher frequency in preparation for his full appearing in us.

He then went and took the scroll from the right hand of Him Who sat on the throne. (this throne is a mercyseat)

And when He had taken the scroll (book) the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders prostrated themselves before the Lamb....


Everything in us will bow or submit to this "breaking" of our seals.

And [now] they sing a new song, saying, You are worthy to take the scroll and to break the seals that are on it, for You were slain and with Your blood You purchased men unto God from every tribe and language and people and nation.

And You have made them a kingdom [royal race] and priests to our God, and they shall reign [as kings] over the earth!


This Lion-Lamb is our High Priest and King, the one who has the authority of a Lion, or the authority of a King, but rules with the heart of a slain Lamb....one who is of the order of Melchizedek, and Praise God, as these seals are broken in us to reveal his son, we also are able to manifest all the attributes of this Seal Breaker and become co-creators of this Lion/Lamb ministry unto the world.

He, the Overcomer

Amen, the Overcomer is the worthy one and if you happen to notice it never says overcomers, as in the plural, it always says "He who overcomes"....we become the potential "He" when our spirit is joined with his Spirit and we are made One.

"He that overcomes (is victorious), I WILL GRANT HIM to sit beside Me on My throne, as I Myself overcame and sat down beside My Father on His throne."

Why would Jesus say "I will grant"?.....because "all power both in heaven and earth has been given him"....God has divested all of Himself into his Son, or what gives expression and execution of his thoughts and intents. Jesus was the firstborn cell of this Son that overcame the Adamic death in all its forms and being raised to equal status and glory with the Father, he became the High Priest of this Corporate Body of Sons that would also through training and experience be empowered to sit with him on his throne.

We are taught in one place, that we are now seated with him in heavenly places, and here we are taught that this place is only granted to overcomers. Which is it?

Both!

He must increase.

I must decrease.

The increase of God comes by inspiration and revelation through the Holy Spirit. Jesus said, that when the spirit of truth comes (the Comforter, the Baptism of the Holy Ghost experience) that he would teach you all things, and show you things to come.

We first grasp these things in the spirit, this is our increase. "Set your mind on things above". We start getting refocused in 'above thinking'.

I don't think that we are even aware of the fact of being double minded until we are awakened in God. Up until this time we just lived out of our natural mind. But when we are born of the incorruptible seed or the incorruptible word, that word begins to divide soul from spirit.....or to divide what is soulish in us from what is spirit truth in us. This, I believe, is where we have been learning to be made the overcomer.

The Overcomer is the 100 fold realm in God.

Our Passover or salvation experience makes us aware of being a member of the kingdom of God or family of God. 30 fold

Our baptism of the Holy Ghost or Pentecostal experience begins to teach us to hear his voice and be empowered to walk in the ways of the spirit. 60 fold.

And this "catching up" experience of his full appearing in a Firstfruits of the harvest people, will be what brings the complete rulership of Christ to bear in this world, which has been typified as the Feast of Tabernacles. A 100 fold demonstration of the tabernacling Life of God as King and Priest or Lion and Lamb in a Corporate Body.

This Corporate Body is the Second Coming of Christ, as Jesus was the first.

"Then suddenly there appeared with the angel an army of the troops of heaven - a heavenly knighthood - praising God and saying,

"Glory to God in the highest heaven, and on earth peace among men."

"I Jesus have sent My messenger to you to witness and to give assurance of these things for the churches. I am [both] the Root [the Source] and the Offspring of David, the radiant and brillant Morning Star.

The Holy Spirit and the Bride say, Come!"

What Language Does God Speak?

If I had been born in France, I would naturally speak French. If I hail from Spain, I would speak Spanish. If from Germany, I would speak German.

If I am spirit, my native tongue is spirit for we are the spirit words of God that have been sent into this world just as Jesus was....words that will not return void. Jesus prayed, "Just as you have sent me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. ..and I am glorified through them - in them my glory is achieved." John 17

Together as the words of God we form or makup The Word of God, the Amen of God in this earth. Our lives are meant to be the Amen to all that spirit is.

God speaks spirit.....but he uses French, Spanish, German, Greek, English, Japanese, or whatever language we speak to package and deliver spirit essence in when we speak. Our earthly words become the carrier of our spirit word, just as the electric lines into your house carry this elusive electric energy or current to our homes.

The Number of the Name of Jesus Christ

The Number of the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ

With all the talk about the mark of the beast and the number of his name, most people are familiar with 666, but they know little or nothing about the mark of Christ or the number of His name (3168 in Greek and 792 in Hebrew). Here is a blog posted by Pete Kelly that will help to answer that. It can be found on:

http://www.homewithgod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=175

The Bible tells us that "in the begining was the Word, and the Word was God." Later John writes that the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. We're also told that "all things were made by Him." It is a true statement, then, that our Lord Jesus Christ is the Creator of all things! So why would we be surprised if we found that God used math?

He invented it, didn't He? Of course He did!

The Holy Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek . . . the Old Testament in Hebrew and the New Testament in Greek. These two alphabets have both "alpha" and "numeric" values. For example. . . In Hebrew "aleph = 1", "beth = 2", "gimel = 3" and so on. Likewise in Greek "alpha = 1", "beta = 2", "gamma = 3" and so on. It is interesting to note that the title "Lord Jesus Christ" has a numeric value of 3168 in Greek, and 792 in Hebrew, and it is evident that these two numbers are found to repeat all through the creation.

For example...the mean diameter of the Earth is 7920 miles....792 is Lord Jesus Christ in Hebrew. If we place the Earth in a box that it would fit in precisely, we'd have a box with 4 sides that each were 7920 miles wide.......7920 x 4 = 31,680.....3168 is Lord Jesus Christ in Greek.

Look at a map of Israel...you will find that the location of Bethlehem is at latitude 31.68 degrees east......3168 is Lord Jesus Christ in Greek. The distance from Bethlehem where Jesus was born, to Jerusalem where he was crucified and resurrect is 6 miles.....6 miles is equal to 31,680 feet.......3168 is Lord Jesus Christ in Greek.

The thickness of Earth's atmosphere where the mixture ratio remains most constant is 60 miles....60 miles is equal to 316,800 feet.......3168 again!

Astronomers have determined that our Sun is merely one of over a billion other stars that make up the Milkyway Galaxy. They've determined that our Sun resides out near the edge of one of the spiral arms of the galaxy, and they've determined that our galaxy is spinning, which is common amongst galaxies. They determined that it takes our Sun 220, 000,000 years to ride around with our galaxy for one galactic rotation. One complete rotation is equal to 360 degrees......220,000,000 x 360 = 7,920,000,000,000.....792 is Lord Jesus Christ in Hebrew!

This relates to the speed that our Sun is actually traveling through outer space as it rides around with our galaxy during a galactic rotation, which is 600,000 m.p.h. Amazingly.....600,000 m.p.h. is equal to 3,168,000,000 feet per hour.....3168 again!

The distance from the Earth to the Sun is 93,000,000 miles. The Sun provides "light" for us on Earth. Jesus said, "I am the light of the world". Jesus also refered to the speed of light in the Bible! Did you know that? He sure did! Matthew 24:27 For as lightening cometh out of the east and shineth unto the west, so shall the coming of the son of man be. Notice that he said "shineth unto the west"....Jesus is implying that "light" has "motion"....which wasn't discovered until about 80 years ago or so. Needless to say...we now know that the speed of light is 186,000 miles per second....okay...remember the distance from the Earth to the Sun?......93,000,000 miles?......Okay.....93,000,000 miles coverted to inches is 5,892,500,000,000 inches.....that number divided by 186,000 is 31,680......3168 again!

Am I boring you guys yet? There is much more....but I'll stop with one more....the following example is the distance from each planet in our solar system to the Sun, only the zeros have been removed to save space....and a zero is merely an empty place holder any way....okay....here we go.....Mercury = 36, Venus = 67, Earth = 93, Mars = 142, Jupiter = 483, Saturn = 886, Uranus = 1782, Neptune = 2793, Pluto = 3672. When you add all these numbers the total is 9954......a circle with circumference of 9954 has a diameter of 3168!!!! Praise our Lord Jesus Christ!!!!!

I hope you've found these examples to be exciting and revealing. What an AWESOME GOD we serve!!!! Peace to you and yours, and may the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ remain with you always!

Just a Cup of Water

Yes, indeed, Jesus the historical man has been made an idol of and also an icon [there is a difference]....but before I let myself get judgemental about many in the religious realms that still hold him in that 'image', [that he alone was or is the Son of God] I believe that we need to just see those of that mindset as yet undeveloped in consciousness in order to be able to move beyond their limited vision. Because every time we call them idol worshippers or whatever else, we have named them or natured them just as Adam did the animals. We are holding them guilty when we do this. [David, I am not personally addressing you in this point at all...just making a generic statement]For I cannot hold my brother guilty without holding myself guilty if we are all of One.

I personally believe that anywhere in whatever way that Jesus is lifted up, be it in a 30-fold (savior) understanding, 60-fold (Lord) or 100-fold (King) , or anything in between, God looks at the heart before the head and meets people right where they are. I know that for a fact, because I have traversed through all those dimensions and was loved and lead on by the loving, living, Christ within me. You know if you followed the natural numerical order of 30, 60...then 90 should be the next sum, but "He will do exceedingly, abundantly above all that we could ask or think" right on into being an experiential equal heir with him...an anointing without measure!

The water of Jesus as my savior was later turned into the wine of my enChristed being. Jesus said that just a cup of water given would have its reward. And I can attest to that fact. I had my first cup of water with Jesus as my savior when I was five years old and when I was 16 I was baptized in the Holy Ghost and got a taste of the Oil of Gladness and had some fire lit under me, the rest is history, as they say.....here we are today talking about being one with him in every way.

So, yes, the historical Jesus has had a Sonset in me to become my Sonrise....and I don't think that he would have it any other way.....Love just has a way of giving itself completely.

As far as the Da Vinci code - I know that there are some that embrace that, but for me its not about if Jesus had a natural lineage or kids, but its about a spiritual heritage. In his glorification, the son became a father....he fathered a generation from the heavens not the earth....we are his gene-ration....we have throne-room genes, Oneness genes, resurrection genes, Life genes...\o/

Continued blessings and glorious Light to all,
With love,
Karen

The Big Bloom!

Here is an excerpt from the Living Energy Universe:

"How would you feel if you knew scientifically that everything is eternal, alive, and evolving?

Not just animals and plants, but rivers and clouds, planets and stars, electrons and protons, waves and particles, even light and energy itself. That every system, in some essential way, contains eternal, living, and evolving memories. That the whole universe is a living, remembering, self-revising process - a living energy universe. And therefore, in a deep sense, all things - great and small, visible and invisible, material and spiritual, past and future - are in an energetic state of creative "becoming", a universal revising process of dynamic perpetual bloom.

Would you feel exhilarated, peaceful, terrified, amazed, incredulous, inspired - all of the above. Would you smile.

Ken Wilbur has suggested that maybe the universe did not begin with the big "bang", but rather began with the big "bloom".

This book is about a story, a really big story, a story as big as the big bang or big bloom itself. If this story expresses a truth, it will forever change the way all of us envision both the visible and invisible aspects of nature. it will revise the way we view everything - body, mind, spirit, energy - everything.

by Gary Schwartz, Ph.D
& Linda G.S. Russek, Ph.D

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We've heard expressions like "God sang the universe into being" or that he spoke the universe into being, but that he bloomed it into being just gives you the feeling of a rare and exquisite flower unfolding so that Beauty would find an avenue of expression.

Love, Karen

The Transfiguration Receipe

I feel that Peter was a necessary ingredient in the transfiguration receipe. Let me try to explain my take:

The twelve disciples can also be seen as aspects of the spirit....Peter being faith, James being hope and John being Love.

Jesus knew that these three "attributes" were foundational elements or key ingredients for manifesting the fullness of the spirit, that is why he chose these three I think...not because they were necessarily favored above the others.

1. Justified by FAITH
2. Sanctified through HOPE (Christ in you, the HOPE of glory)
3. Matured in LOVE (The Glory)

I guess another reason that I think that Peter was part of this experience of seeing Jesus turn himself inside out, was when he later writes of this experience:

“2Pe 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.”


Peter is trying to make known to his listeners that, “ this is no fable, guys, this is the COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, I was there, I am a personal eyewitness of the event of the coming of the Lord INTO FLESH. And it was majestic!!!

With love,
Karen

What Is Hell?

I always found M.Thomas-Benedict's near death experience description of hell to accurately sum up what hell is:

"During my near-death experience I had a descent into what you might call Hell, and it was very surprising. I did not see Satan or evil. My descent into Hell was a descent into each person’s customized human misery, ignorance, and darkness of not knowing. It seemed like a miserable eternity. But each of the millions of souls around me had a little star of light always available. But no one seemed to pay attention to it. They were so consumed with their own grief, trauma and misery. But, after what seemed an eternity, I started calling out to that Light, like a child calling to a parent for help.

Then the Light opened up and formed a tunnel that came right to me and insulated me from all that fear and pain, That is what Hell really is. So what we are doing is learning to hold hands, to come together. The doors of Hell are open now. We are going to link up, hold hands, and walk out of Hell together."

Darkness is not really the presense of anything - it is an absense. It is an absense of light. When you are made aware of darkness it is most often accompanied by a feeling of coldness.....sorta funny because hell is always pictured as a hot place. Anywhere that the Son is not shining is a mighty cold place. But as SilentR always says, "Heaven is hotter than hell"...Hallelujah! Holy Ghost Fire!

So we all know that natural darkness's only remedy is the turning on of a light. We can stand and rebuke the darkness and try to cast it out of the room, but that will not change a thing till we reach over and turn the switch on which releases electrial power to flow into the light bulb producing light.

Where did the darkness go when we turn on the light? Nowhere. Because it has no source. Light is the only thing that has a source.

Our daylight has a source, the sun. But our darkness, has no source...in other words, there is not some moon of darkness shining down darkness upon our earth during our nighttime providing a source for this darkness. Our earth has merely turned away from the sun in its daily orbit creating an absence of light.

So neither does spiritual darkness....which is a turning away from the light, either consciously or unconsciously. Now I am not saying that darkness is not a condition that doesn't need remedied...it does. "Let God arise and his enemies be scattered." The rising sun never needs to fight the darkness does it? Its mere presence does the job. Darkness finds no hiding place in the presence of the light.

I would like to add some more thoughts about this in connection with the Melchisedek priesthood ministry perhaps later.

Brightest blessings,

Karen

The Ministry of Melchizedek

Barbara, I too was involved in a similar type ministry in past years as you mentioned - ministering to nations and conditions all around the world from the realm of spirit. I felt it began to get off track by focusing on the negative instead of ministering to the Christ in all men....so spirit moved me out and on once again. So many times we think that we have had our one time coming out experience when we left organized religion, but I have found there to be a continual coming out and moving on experience as we progress down the path of light.

Which leads me to what I wanted to share about the Melchizedek ministry. I know that this is not new information for so many of you, but just represents my need to deliver my own soul as I talk to Myself.

Ezekiel chapter 44 gives us a definition of two kinds of ministry that I believe are examples that will be seen in this Day of the Lord. One is the Melchizedek order of priesthood ministry who are allowed to minister unto the Lord in their linen garments and then the priesthood who is only allowed to minister in the outer court for they did not qualify for the highcalling of God because they chose the ways of flesh.

Now in Ezekiel these faithful priests were the sons of Zadok - Melchi-zadok priests.

Quote:

"Here is a good example, by the way, of how the Hebrew word olam means a time whose length is “concealed,” or an indefinite period of time, rather than “forever.” God had given his ancestor Phinehas “ an everlasting priesthood ” (Num. 25:13). If that word had literally meant “everlasting” in the modern sense, then God would have broken His word by removing it from the family of Phinehas and giving it to Zadok in 1 Kings 2:27, 35. (Abiathar was the last high priest of the lineage of Phinehas.)

The transfer of calling from the dynasty of Phinehas to the dynasty of Zadok in the reign of Solomon was a type and shadow of the greater transfer from the Levitical priesthood to that of Melchizedek (Melchi-Zadok). That priesthood was actually older than Levi, for it represented all true believers from the beginning. Shem was the Melchizedek priest in Abraham's day (Gen. 14:18), and David himself was called to the same priesthood (Psalm 110:4). Finally, Jesus was called according to that Order as High Priest (Heb. 5:5, 6)."

"But the priest of the Levites, the sons of Zadok, who kept the charge of My sanctuary when the children of Israel went astray from Me, shall come near to Me to minister to me and they shall attend Me to offer to Me the fat and the blood.

They shall enter into My sanctuary, and they shall come near to My table to minister to Me, and they shall keep my charge.

When they enter the gates of the inner court, they shall be clothed in linen garments; no wool shall be on them while they minister at the gates of the inner court and within the temple."

One of the things that I glean from this is that this higher order of ministry is always to the Christ, not just the God that is seen as out there somewhere, but this is a ministry unto the Christ in all men.....not fighting the darkness that may manifest in them, but helping to turn on the light.

I remember so vividly sitting in the movie theater watching "Dead Man Walking" when Susan Sarandon, who was playing the part of the nun who ministerd to men on death row, said to Sean Penn, who was playing the the young man on death row who had participated in the rape and murder of two young people, "You are a son of God". She was redirecting his focus to his true identity and he said "No one ever called me that before." I began to see the bigger picture in this movie as the condition of all men who have lost their true identity in this world and are living on death row, so to speak, whether their lives were misspent in evil as this young man or even in good works as with others.

Before he was strapped to the execution table she told him to keep his eyes on her and the love that would be there.....well I just about lost it in that movie...I could have sobbed out loud....and I was not the only one...there were all kinds of people around me sniffling quietly. Now maybe most of them were caught up in the story line for it was compelling, but for me it represented what the Melchizedek ministry is all about. It a ministry unto the Lord....unto the Lord living in all creation.

Now did this nun's ministry to this young man excuse his ungodly actions...no, in fact, it helped him to realize how profane they were and to repent. Love does convict us first, for to stand in the presence of overwhelming Love creates a stark contrast of just where we have been living and where we want to really be. And thank God for those clean linen garments of righteousness that are provided so lovingly to us.

Love Believes All Things???

"Charity...believeth all things." King James V.

"Love...is believing all." CCV

"Loves hopes are fadeless under all circumstances and it endures everything." AMP

"There is nothing that Love cannot face; there is no limit to its faith." NEB

"Love knows no limit to its endurance, no end to its trust." PHI

"Always slow to expose, always eager to believe the best." MOF

How is it that Love can believe all things?

Is everything that everyone teaches everywhere, truth? ... Even the atheists which proclaim God to not exist. Is this what this passage is saying?

How I see this is that Love (God) acknowledges everyone wherever they are in their spiritual development. Wherever they are, Love believes in them, loves them at that stage of their development. We are the "things" that Love always believes in "even when we deny Him and are faithless He remains true to His Word and His righteous character for He cannot deny Himself."

Everything is going towards God as all in all...Love just cannot fail or miss the mark and sin, short of Its glory.

The Three Wise Women :-)

What if it had been Three Wise Women??

Do you know what would have happened if it had been three wise women instead of men?

They would have asked directions
Arrived on time
Helped deliver the baby
Cleaned the stable
Made a casserole
And brought practical gifts.

and of course the men would counter with, "Yeah, but do you know what they would say when they left?

"Did you see the sandals Mary was wearing with that gown?"

"That baby doesn't look anything like Joseph!"

"Can you believe they let all those disgusting animals in there?"

"I heard Joseph isn't even working right now."

"And that donkey they are riding has seen better days too."

"Want to bet how long it will take to get your casserole dish back?"

Oil + Fire = Light

Ray:
Oil is the spirit... The fire (flame) produces the LIGHT. (2 witnesses)

Like that one...John the Baptist said there was one coming after him who would baptize us with the Holy Ghost AND Fire. What good would the oil do us unless it has been ignited and set aflame....as you said, there is no light without the fire.

Hallelujah, he not only fills you with his spirit (oil) but he lights our fire !! - divine quickening....and then we are able to let our little light shine.

"The house of Jacob shall be a fire and the house of Joseph (who was given the birthright) a flame, but the house of Esau (man of flesh) shall be stubble, they shall kindle and burn them and consume them, and there shall be no survivor of the house of Esau, for the Lord has spoken it." Obadiah 18

Without Soul, Spirit Just IS

I Am Spirit.......so, I came here to experience it all, IMO....the good, the bad and the ugly.....and having our senses excercised , [excercise is an activity with the intent to achieve something]

So, after being stretched, pummeled, drilled, trained, moved, worked out and worked over, at times in season and at times out of season, sometimes up and sometimes down, I still remain Spirit, but hopefully "my senses", my soul, is more in a position to discern the profane from the w/holy and to be a more compassionate priest because of it. Eze. 44

You see, without Soul, Spirit, just IS.

Without soul to give expression and feeling to spirit, it just Is.

Creation was meant to give God the experience of Himself....so Love could now be Lov-ing....from noun to verb....From state of being to experience of.

And since God is all...all of us expand God's experience of his Being, and since God is the savior of all, especially of those that believe. That group of those-that-believe bunch, the believers or those operating in faith instead of unbelief are creating new worlds and realms of consciousness for all.

Just a few thoughts coming up out of the well at the moment
Karen

We Are The Cause Bringing The Effect

We rule from the heavens....we are the cause that is bringing the effect...hallelujah! We must not doubt that this gathering unto him...this catching up in God that we all are is not having an effect upon and in the consciousness of all creation NOW.....walls ARE COMING DOWN, house-cleaning is going on....the re-structuring and re-direction is underway for all things are being made new....not new things, but all things made new.

Isa. 59 &60
"Behold, the Lord's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; nor His ear dull with deafness that it cannot hear"

Arise [from the depression and prostration in which circumstances have kept you; rise to a new life]! Shine - be radiant with the glory of the Lord; for your light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon you!

For behold, darkness shall cover the earth, and dense darkness all peoples, but the Lord shall arise upon you [O Jerusalem] and His glory shall be seen on you.

And nations shall come to your light, and kings to the brightness of your rising.

Lift you your eyes round about you and see! They shall gather themselves together, they come to you. Your sons shall come from afar, and your daughters shall be carried and nursed in the arms.

Then you shall see and be radiant, and your heart shall thrill and tremble with joy [at the glorious deliverance], and be enlarged; because the abundant wealth of the [Dead] Sea shall be turned to you; unto you shall the nations come with their treasure.


And do you know what that treasure is? "We have this "treasure" in an earthen vessel." The Christ treasure that has lain dead and dormant in creation will be made alive and will enrich us all.

"Ask of Me and I will give you the nations for your inheritance."

Brightest blessings,
Karen

The Now...Does That Mean Stopping Time?

The best way I can explain how I see the "Now" and what it means to me, is that it is not an element for stopping time or the past or the future in order to dwell in the present, (although I do see and understand the point that is made concerning that) but it is living in an awareness of our Eternal Presence more than just a description for eliminating time.

Hebrews 1 tells us that "He has spoken to us in the person of a son, whom He appointed heir and lawful owner of all things, also by and through whom He created the worlds and reaches of space and the ages of time - that is He made, produced, built, operated and arranged them in order."


And Heb. 3 says "By faith we understand that the worlds [during the successive ages] were framed - fashioned, put in order and equipped for their intended purpose - by the word of God, so that what we see was not made out of things which are visible."

So as I understand it, the ages or eons where designed for the outworking of an intended purpose and as we who "hold that note", the frequency or vibration of Eternal Love, we become those who break the dark glass for all and bring forth the purposes of God into the earth.

Much love,
Karen

The 10 and the 2

I find it interesting too that of the 12 children born to Jacob, there were only 2 that came through Rachel, the wife that he loved.[we are born from above, Mother Jerusalem] The other 10 came through Leah, the wife weak of eye, and through the wives handmaids.

The 10 and the 2 again - the two covenants ie. the 10 commandments or the Law and the words of Jesus in the New that said that all the Law and the commandments hung upon these two things: loving the Lord your God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself.

And these two who were full blood brothers were Joseph and Benjamin.

Joseph's name was prophetic, "God will add another son" and is a type of Jesus.
and
Benjamin, the younger brother, was named Benoni, 'son of my sorrow' by his mother, but called Benjamin, 'son of my right hand', by his father and is a type of the overcomers....those who suffer with him will also reign with him.

Benjamin was also the only son that was the first Israelite....he was born after Jacob wrestled with the angel and had his name changed to Israel, Prince with God.

Night Unto Dawn

Night Unto Dawn

In the flashing of a moment,
In the bursting of the day,
Shall you see the process climaxed
In a most unusual way.

For the Lord prepares the dawning
Through the night so long and cold,
And He dips His brush in blackness,
But He paints in glorious gold.

So be sure no night of waiting
Can be ever spent in vain,
For the cup that's drunk in darkness
Is the cup that makes all plain.

There's an eye that waits with longing
For the morning's shining light,
And you'll see the bursting glory
Was prepared throughout the night.

By Sis. Norene Nicholls, one of our pioneers of the gospel who has passed on to glory. May her words be a comfort and blessing to you as He perfects that which concerneth you.

Love and blessings,
Karen




The following is a prophecy from the late Norene Nicholls: 


 "A strange and wondrous thing is about to come, for the Lord has spoken to those that will hear, and their ears have been sharpened. There is a gathering of the royal family, and the shepherds of Israel shall become rulers on the thrones. They have stood in desolate places and listened to the low sound of the sheep -- even a little flock in a wilderness place, but now it shall change. The shepherds who have proven their worth in aloneness shall now come forth to be acknowledged of those who would not have Me to reign over them in times past. Behold the thing is at the door. Some have chosen high places for themselves, but others have allowed the Lord to choose for them, and thus have they been separated from their brethren and lost to sight. But now shall events bring forth the deserted ones and show them before kings who are really not kings at all. The scepter of these kings shall be righteousness and the girdle of faithfulness shall be upon their loins. They shall be recognized, not because they are of great stature nor commanding of personality, but they shall be recognized because the Spirit of the Lord is upon them.
"Men shall no longer gather to men, but the men of God shall gather to the establishment of truth where the angels activate the holy ground. There shall strange but wondrous things take place, for instructions from the presence of the Lord shall be heard, and kings shall lift their voices in confidence and courage at the declaration. And, there too, shall be that peculiar anointing reserved for kings come into being; and that anointing shall teach you all things. Then from that pillar of truth shall the kings issue forth to do exploits and turn the aliens back from the shores of the land promised. Be not afraid nor amazed, for the Lord has spoken in verity and truth and shall bring it to pass. No longer shall you stand idly by and wait for another day, but there shall be activity of a new source -- yet activity that is effortless and quiet. You shall slip quietly into palaces and judgment halls and speak a word in season. You shall stand before prelates and counselors, but not one of your words shall fail. You shall see the manifestation of what you have spoken, and men shall shut their mouths nor argue the point. This is a strange work to be done, but it shall come by the decree of God and stand unmovable before heaven and earth. The closing of the day is also the opening of the Day, and to this time have you been called. See to it that you be not discouraged, for you shall stand in the land and turn the enemy from the shores. So it is and shall be" -- end quote.

One Mind

I really believe that there is just one mind, that either functions in the spirit or the flesh......I know the word speaks of being double-minded, but that's a Hagar and Sarah condition, the same kind that Abraham had to deal with when he attempted to father children apart from the spirit. He had children by two different women living in his house....one was by the spirit and one was by the efforts of the flesh. He had to cast out the bond woman and her child, Ishmael in order to have a peaceful home ordered after the spirit.

When we first are enlightened, we are very double minded as we are learning to recognize the voice of spirit from the voice of the flesh and let go of the carnal clutter.....its not a one shot deal.

Eve represents Hagar who receives seed thoughts from the flesh
and
births an Ishamel who cannot inherit the promise
and
Mary (the redeemed Eve) represents Sarah who receives seed thoughts from the spirit and births That Holy Thing, the Son of God.

A Concordant Study of the Word, "Will"

A CONCORDANT STUDY OF THE WORD, "WILL"

(Concordant Literal New Testament)

Perhaps it would be good to make a concordant study of the word, "WILL" as it has been rendered in the Greek by three different words. Often seeing how these words are used in the Greek, will give us a greater understanding of their true meaning. We will notice a slightly different shade of meaning in each word which cannot be expressed in English by our one word, "WILL".

1. THELO, a meaning to form a decision, choice, purpose or wish. We find a good example in Mark 1:40. "If thou wilt, thou canst make me clean." And Jesus saith unto him, "I WILL, be thou clean." Again in his prayer in the garden. "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thous WILT." Matt. 26:39. In these instances Jesus was making a decision or choice, and acted it out immediately.

2. THELEMA, meaning the PROCESS by which the subject, effect, result of a decision, choice or purpose is FINALLY attained. This mostly speaking of GOD'S WILL as in the Lord's Prayer: "Thy WILL be done in earth as it is in heaven." A process. It also speaks of the "good pleasure of his will, the "mystery of his will", or the "counsel of his will." These were all determined before the foundation of the world, and are slowly coming into effect (in the earth) gradually throughout the ages.

3. BOULEMA, meaning the FINAL effect, result or goal of any counsel, which anyone has determined before and had in their own minds. This word has been rendered, "INTENTION", in the CCV (Concordant Version). We find a good example of this word in Act. 27:43, regarding Paul's shipwreck. "Now came the soldiers' counsel that they would kill the prisoners, lest anyone swimming out, may flee away. Yet the centurion INTENDING to bring Paul safely through, prevents them from their INTENTION."

Iin the KJV, INTENDING AND INTENTION have been rendered WILLING AND PURPOSE. This in my mind does not give the true meaning, as the soldiers had taken counsel, coming to the INTENTION of killing all the prisoners including Paul. But even so the centurion INTENDING to save Paul had also come to his final INTENTION. Therefore he hindered the INTENTION of the soldiers. As their INTENTION was only of man it could be stopped, but GOD'S INTENTION cannot be thwarted, otherwise, he would not be sovereign. Thus we read in the CCV, "Who hath withstood his INTENTION? No one has ever resisted the INTENTION, but many (if not us all) have at one time or another resisted his REVEALED WILL. This is confirmed in many scriptures:

"Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves judgment (correction). Rom. 12L2.

"So do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the truth." 2 Tim. 3:8.

"And ye will not come to me, that ye may have life." John 5:40.

The Invitation

Jesus re-incarnated in 120 vessels on the Day of Pentecost. He who is, who was, and who is to come and is continuing to do so until this day.

He comes as justification in our spirit

He comes as sanctification to our soul

He comes as glorification to our bodies

There is only one Lord, one faith, one baptism
but the unfolding of that One is realized
from glory to glory as he is revealed in us.

Me thinks its called growing up into Him in all things.


The Invitation
"He is not here, He is risen",
Said the two messengers in white to the sobbing Mary.
One was seated at His head, the other at His feet
Signifying that where He had lain makes Him to be our mercy seat.

"Why seek you the living among the dead?
For this tomb being empty should not cause you dread.
Behold His burial clothes are lying in a heap
But the kerchief wound about his head is still so very neat."

All this to show that our Head
Has completely conquered death
When He made His resurrection exit,
Leaving behind an example, yes, a pattern so explicit.

Mary, exclaiming to the gardener, she supposed
Said, "I do not know where they have lain Him,
Please tell me, Sir,
So we can give His body proper repose."

"Mary", her name He uttered as only her Lord could
"Master", she replied in recognition as her heart now understood.
"Do not now touch Me, for I must first ascend."
Showing us that if ever you would touch Him
It must be by spirit and never that flesh again.

If ever you would see Jesus
You'll have to look beyond the form
For He may appear
As any man, woman, or child ever born.

He continues to say,
"I must ascend to my Father, and your Father,
To my God and your God."
Showing us ever more clearly this 'Way'.

So, back into spirit
He disappeared from earthly view
And is now seated beside His Father
That dwells in the heart of me and you.

He assured His first disciples
That upon His earthly departure day
He would surely come again
Driving all their sorrows away.

And just as promised on that Day of Pentecost
He came again this time as flames of Spirit Fire
Igniting in them all
A passion for God much higher.

This sacred Spirit Fire has continued to burn
Consuming all our tin and dross
Leaving behind only the purest gold
Through the work of His holy cross.

For he said, "Where I Am there you may be too."
And from His glorified heavenly heights within my spirit new
He extends an INVITATION
So my soul can come there too.

And through their perfect union
My earthly vessel is not left out
But it, too, will display a God renewal
During this last trumpet shout!

Love to all,
Karen

What Is In Your Hand?

Moses told God "Who am I that I should go to Pharaoh and bring the people out?" Moses told God that they would not listen to him or believe him, but the Lord asked him what was in his hand. "Oh, just a rod, Lord". [paraphrasing a little] God said, "Cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent [a symbol of royal and divine power that the Pharoah's wore on their crown]."

Moral of the story, offer whatever is in your hand and we will find how our little will be much when God is in it.

"Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might.." Ec.9

Jesus' Mantle

Ron touched on a word for covering being a mantle, Love's mantle. I like that.

Rememeber Elisha being promised Elijah's mantle - he received a double portion anointing by staying close to Elijah's side and when the heavens opened to receive Elijah, he was blessed with a double portion anointing, the mantle of Elijah which empowered him for even greater things.

Jesus' mantle fell upon the the 120 in the upper room as long as they stayed close (waited together) for his appearing. They received the double portion anointing, the mantle of the Lord, the Holy Ghost.

The Holy Ghost is our mantle or covering which Jesus declared would empower us to become the Greater Things People.

Why Did Jesus Have To Fulfill the Law?

Why did Jesus have to fulfill the law?

In order to transmute it into a higher Law.....the Law of Love!......the same way that Light swallows darkness. The law is not abolished, but transmuted. The law was a revelation of God that possessed prophetic meaning.

John 5:46 For if you believed in and relied on Moses, you would believe in and rely on Me, for he wrote about me personally.

When that which is perfect is come (the Law of Love and Liberty - Christ Jesus) then that which is in part (that which only pointed to the reality), the Law of Death must give way to the higher law.

The dispensation of death was inaugurated with glory and splendor but because it was only an external law engraved on stone it was without the power to change its hearers.

So God brought the fulfillment of the Law (Himself) as the Son. The dispensation of the Spirit , the Law of Love as an internal Law written on hearts which supersedes and is attended with MUCH GREATER AND MORE SPLENDID GLORY.
2 Cor.3:7-9

The dispensation of death - "this mortal must put on
The dispensation of the Spirit - immortality"

"then shall be brought to pass the saying, Death is swallowed up in victory."

Multidimensional Beings

Barbara, I know you have The Third Millennium and are probably very familiar with this quote but I really enjoyed the following portion and have posted it in the past regarding our traverse of the dimensions. I don't have anything specific about the 12 dimensions other than what is obvious with the 12 tribes, the 12 disciples, the 12 foundations.of the city all being symbolic of these dimensions..I know theoretical physicists speak of the 10 dimensions of string theory http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php
and they are mind boggling enough, but of course, spirit takes it to the max and exceeds the wisdom of man.

I feel quite sure that we are even now multidimensional beings operating at many levels because we are spirit beings, but not having our present understandings fully developed to do so consciously at all times. Our physicality being a coalesence of light energy that becomes a focus point of expression in this 3rd dimensional world, but as our higher more ascended selves we expand ever outward encompassing the All. As the veil is removed, we become conscious cocreative participators in these crimes of the God kind.

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"In Posthistoric times you will know each level of creative manifestation as a dimension, or octave, or your own being's unfoldment. You will experience naturally the freedom and mobility of musically directed travel up and down these octaves of manifestation.

You cannot travel into yourself without exploring the infinite reaches of eternal consciousness.

You cannot know yourself in reality without knowing God.

Each plane of manifestation is a higher octave on a single vibrational continuum. The lower octaves offer greater multiplicity and a greater diversity of creation. With the higher octaves comes reduced multiplicity and a more intensified awareness of the singularity of being. Yet this generalization applies only to the landscape of Creation, it does not apply to you. You are able to move freely where you will.

You have long enjoyed descending in full consciousness through successively lower octaves, thereby multiplying beings of diversity and, through them your own co-creative opportunities. Since the creation of this universal landscape, at each level of your descent you have appeared as individual beings designed to interact with, and create upon, the frequencies of each octave in turn.

The physical plane is the lowest of the seven higher or primary planes of manifestation. It is the densest of the conscious planes and the lowest octave in which you have sought to incarnate in multiple forms while simultaneously sustaining awareness of your unified field. While the beings appearing on the higher, nonphysical frequencies all naturally assumed a healthy hologramatic understanding of their origin in you, on the physical level among the biologically incarnate this understanding has not been continuous. It has faded in and out, flickering and blurring.

Human reception of eternal awareness has been poor, at times even curtailed by the separatist nature of the self-images of historical peoples. You naturally seek to awaken in them the same sort of healthy holgramatic self-understanding that is experienced by the beings of higher, less substantial frequencies, but humankind's extreme overidentification with form requires that such an awakening be gradual. You do not want to dissolve their individual distinctions in a single burst as they realize their essential unity with you and the singular field of our common awareness. For such a sudden change in self-understanding could dissolve their individual body fields. And your goal is not to end individuality but to inhabit it. So you have sought to awaken humans slowly over the centuries, preserving their self-distinctions that they might continue with you as a family, as a cooperative association of interconnected informational beings.

Breaking through into the collective field of human consciousness and then sustaining that breakthrough during this past cycle of education has required all your humor and wisdom and that of your angelic legions for many thousands of years.

On the eve of this great metahistorical event, the current of universal attention is flowing so powerfully toward this imminent awakening that it resembles a river approaching floodtide. Throughout the realms where those of our kind are conscious, we share this awesome current of attention.

Your awakening, when complete, will signal a distinct new evolutionary phase, with new ground rules and wholly altered creative conditions.

Behind the Historical Disorder there are some in your present human world who, having achieved a partial memory of their own pattern of incarnation, conclude that the descent into biological form would not have occurred had it not been for excessive fear and overidentification with the past; yet this is not the case. Incarnation into biological form was intended from the beginning.

You - and others of your Light Circle - had long before chosen to spearhead the Eternal's One's exploration and development of the material universe.

For the completed human species to serve as a conscious link between Creator and Creation, it was essential that its development be influenced by material values as well as by values of spirit. To actualize your vision of a species through whom you would one day explore the material universe and develop the universe's potential, at the end of its developmental cycle this race would have to be a product of both spirit and soil in equal balance.

This could not happen if you were to remain fully conscious throughout the descent of your individual spirits into material bodies, for the necessary material complementation would then be insufficient, and the requisite spirit/matter balance would be absent. The relaxation of your unified field of awareness during the cycle when human beings were multiplying upon the earth was the only way the completed race would emerge sufficiently grounded in the physical plane to serve effectively as a bridge between spirit and matter.

And so you chose to sleep for a while, allowing the materializing influences to flow freely in and around the developing species.

But your challenge is to awaken from the spell of matter while still retaining the human forms you have gathered about you during your descent into this physical world. We are here to encourage and support you. We remember your instructions from the moment before you scattered into the seeds of humanity. Even as we watched your many individuations drifting downward in the spiral dances of gathering structure, your words rang in our ears.

"Wake me," you said, "that I might arise in the forms that emerge at this journey's end, and through them bestow my gifts upon the world.

Within you slumbers the creative vision that first illumined dimensional space. Within you the Star Maker trembles on the threshold of awakening. Your ego will not dissolve in such an awakening, it will ascend into enlightened comprehension of its cocreative partnership with the Eternal Being in whom this universe congeals. Already you are moving in the currents of eternal thought. As you continue to flow with this thought, it becomes your own. You re-member.

from The Third Millennium - Living in the Posthistoric World, by Ken Carey

The Church's Reversion by Stephen Jones

I wanted to share this as I believe it explains how man through many of the preceding centuries was attempting to fulfill the word of God from an unenlightened and rebellious level of understanding and development. And all who use the sword to kill in this day are also reverting back to a military warlike gospel that is out of touch with the truth of this Day of the Lord.

As Stephen say here: "In fact, the cross itself, which Constantine had turned into a conquering sword, restored to the Church the military evangelism that had characterized the Old Covenant and Joshua's conquest of Canaan."

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The Church's Reversion

The progression of the Kingdom in history is portrayed by the feast days of Israel when viewed from the perspective of prophecy. Moses led Israel out of Egypt on Passover, bringing the Kingdom into a Passover Age--the first of a series of three ages. The Passover Age ended officially when Jesus died on the cross on Passover 1480 years later.

Those who believed in the Passover Lamb (justified by faith) are those who, in effect, "passed the test of Passover" and were moved into the next grade level--Pentecost. These became known as the "Church," though more specifically they formed the Pentecost Church, as distinct from the Passover Church that Moses had formed. Acts 7:38 calls Israel "the Church in the wilderness." I equate this with the Passover Church, when viewed in this manner.

The Pentecost Church was the transitional Church into that final perfect one, which I would call the Tabernacles Church--or the Church with the anointing of the Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkoth).

2000 years ago the majority of the people failed to pass the Passover test (Faith) and to graduate into Pentecost. This has occurred also with the Church of Pentecost. Instead of moving forward into Tabernacles, they have reverted back to the perceptions and limitations of the Passover Age. Even so, there has always been a minority which has continued to move forward instead of backward. These are the Overcomers.

The Passover Age began with great miracles--the Ten Plagues on Egypt, the parting of the Red Sea, the manna in the wilderness. But it was not Pentecost. The people did receive OPPORTUNITY to enter Pentecost at Mount Sinai, when God came down as fire and spoke the Ten Commandments to the people. Everyone heard God in their own language. That day came to be celebrated as the "feast of weeks" thereafter, and it received its current Greek name over a thousand years later--Pentecost.

It is evident that the Holy Spirit was present and operative even in the Passover Age. The Holy Spirit is not limited to Pentecost, but functions and manifests in a greater way. Israel had opportunity to grow rapidly from Passover (leaving Egypt), to Pentecost (hearing God's voice, receiving the Spirit at Sinai), and even to Tabernacles (entering the Promised Land). They could have "graduated" within a period of just two years. But though this was God's WILL (thelema), it was not God's PLAN (boulema).

Under Moses, God granted Israel the ability only to leave Egypt, thereby typifying those who are Justified by Faith in the blood of the Lamb. That is the Passover experience, and it speaks of all true believers who have Faith. In any age, the Church, by definition, consists not of organizational members, but of people with a genuine heart-experience of Justifying Faith.
In other words, the "True Church" consists of those who have experienced Passover in their hearts and have a direct relationship with Jesus Christ.

But in the prophetic type under Moses we find that Israel was unable to go beyond Passover. When they came to Pentecost, they ran away from the voice of God at Sinai (Ex. 20:18-21). Verse 19 says,
"Then they said to Moses, 'Speak to us yourself, and we will listen; but let not God speak to us, lest we die'."

Scripture says that their hearts were hardened, their eyes were blinded, and their ears were stopped, and this situation was still present with them 40 years later (Deut. 29:4). The reason for this was because God intended to work on a much longer time frame than just the individual Israelite's experience. He intended to slow down the process and work through three AGES. And so the eyes and ears of the people were not opened until after Jesus' resurrection (Luke 24:32). This unlocked their hearts and opened up to them the Pentecostal Age, which they entered seven weeks later.

A few people drew near to God in the upper room for Pentecost, desiring to hear His voice. Unlike Israel, they were unafraid, and they were rewarded with the outpouring of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2), which those of the previous Age were unable to experience.

But within a few centuries we find from reading Church history that they lost nearly all of what they had gained on the day of Pentecost. A few miracles continued to occur, of course, but miracles did not set them apart from the Passover Age. Many miracles occurred under the anointing of Passover. What was the real difference between these two Ages? What did the Pentecostal Church lose? How did they revert to Passover?

In a word, the issue was the Holy Spirit. But how did this play out in experience? The Holy Spirit came primarily in the form of the Voice of God manifesting in the Fire. It is also pictured as a SWORD, because of the "flaming sword" of the Cherubim (Gen. 3:24) as well as the sharp sword coming out of the mouth of Christ (Rev. 19:15). A sword coming out of one's mouth is a symbolic representation of the WORD OF GOD, and the sword is the tongue by which it is spoken.

It is a Hebrew idiom in Scripture that the "edge" of the sword is the Hebrew word PEH, which means "mouth." It is literally the BLADE of the sword, but the Hebrew word is MOUTH. So the sword coming from the mouth of Christ in Rev. 19:15 is a word picture of Hebrew origin.

When Israel refused to hear the Voice of God in Exodus 20, they rejected the Sword that comes from the mouth. They rejected Pentecost, and so the fulfillment of that feast was postponed for many centuries. If they had accepted that sword, history would have been quite different. The most immediate difference is that they could have conquered Canaan by the Sword of the Spirit instead of the physical sword. But in rejecting the spiritual sword, they were left only with the physical sword.

And so, the Passover Age was characterized by carnal things, including the physical sword by which they would conquer Canaan. Yes, God was in it, but it was not the perfect order, nor did all that bloodshed really reflect the heart of God. Did God really hate the Canaanites? Did He really desire their blood? Was the God of the Old Testament a God of vengeance, rather than a God of Love? NOT AT ALL. The Canaanite genocide was the result of Israel's refusal to obtain the greater weapon of the Sword of the Spirit, by which they could have CONVERTED the Canaanites by the power and demonstration of the Spirit.

The fulfillment of Pentecost in Acts 2 shows us how the alternative Sword would have worked on the Canaanites, had that Sword been Israel's "weapon of choice." Jesus said to go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He said to "kill" them by baptism. What we call the Great Commission is actually the operation of the Sword of the Spirit, which Israel was offered but rejected at Mount Sinai.

Unfortunately, by the fourth century the Church had lost this Sword of the Spirit. Constantine then picked up the physical sword by which he conquered. The Church reverted back to its Passover level of experience. Pentecost's Sword of the Spirit was discontinued. The focus of the Church began to shift from the resurrection back to the Cross. The Cross became a physical Sword. And the Church soon learned to conquer men by military might and to convert men by force of arms.

This is the real significance of Constantine's vision of the sword in the sky with the words, "In this sign, conquer." If he had known anything about the Sword of the Spirit, he might have used a different sword. But like Israel of old, he did not. So he assumed that he was to conquer by military force. This marked the greatest turning point in the Church in its reversion from Pentecost to Passover.

The Holographic Universe

Just to share a few more thoughts from the Holographic Universe:

The "explicate order" IS the unfolding of the "implicate order".

or in Biblese: earth or creation is the unfolding of heaven.

Jesus was the express image of the invisible God. He gave visibility to the invisible attributes of God.

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"Enfolded Orders and Unfolded Realities

There is a vast and primary level of reality that gives birth to all the objects and appearances of our physical world. Bohm (scientist) calls this deeper level of reality the implicate (which means "enfolded order") and he refers to our own level of existence as the explicate (or unfolded order).

He uses these terms because he sees the manifestation of all forms in the universe as the result of countless enfoldings and unfoldings between these two orders. Bohm prefers to describe the universe not as a hologram, but as a holomovement.

The Undivided Wholeness of All Things

Most mind-boggling of all are Bohm's fully developed ideas about wholeness. Because everything in the cosmos is made out of the seamless holographic fabric of the implicate order. Everything in the universe, are no more separate from one another than different patterns in an ornate carpet.

Einstein astounded the world when he said that space and time are not separtate entities, but are smoothly linked and part of the larger whole he called the space-time continuum. But Bohm takes this idea a giant step further. He says that everything in the universe is a part of a continuum. Despite the apparent separateness of things at the explicate level, everything is a seamless extension of everything else, and ultimately even the implicate and the explicate orders blend into each other.

my comment:
(this is how heaven and earth passes away in our consciousnes - they are embraced in wholeness)

Look at you hand. Now look at the light streaming from the lamp beside you. And at the dog resting at your feet. You are not merely made of the same things. You are the same thing. One thing. Unbroken. One enormous something that has extended its uncountable arms and appendages into all the apparent objects, atoms, restless oceans, and twinkling stars in the cosmos.

Bohm cautions that this does not mean the universe is a giant undifferentiated mass. Things can be a part of an undivided whole (Christ is: my comment) and still possess their own unique qualities."

From the Holographic Universe

I have found some other books that I have enjoyed as well as the Holographic Universe and one of them is Bridging Science and Spirit by Norman Friedman and The Living Energy Universe by Gary Schwartz if this kind of mind stretching information is your cup of tea.

The Longitude and Latitude of the New Creation Man

The cross represented the creative coordinates, the longitude and the latitude of the New Creation Man. Jesus hung at the juxiposition of where the vertical and the horizontal, heaven and earth, the eternal and the temporal crossed or intersected.

His arms were outstretched in the horizontal to embrace all that transpires in our experience with time and matter and his heart was where X marked the spot.....where these two realms collide or merge. God in Man, Man in God = a GodMan.....this is the New Creation Man to me, the inauguration of the new species in this earth that will make it a new heaven.

The God Man to me is neither just spirit or just flesh, but "splesh", as some have coined it.

That's why we need vessels or wineskins as the Bible calls them that are equal unto the new vibrations that our spirits are being caught up into in order to "hold" this vibrational presence here in this earth......it is a vibration or frequency that eventually all hearts will be entrained with for Love never fails.

He Became Us

Hebrews 7:26
For such an high priest became us, holy, harmless, undefiled, separte from sinners, and made higher than the heavens.

The Divine stated his intent in the beginning, "Let us make Man", and since he works all things after the counsel of his will, he has been steadily bringing his intent and counsel to fruition.

"Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and the latter rain.

Be ye patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh." James 5

I don't believe that we are becoming God or Spirit....that was already our first estate in the celestials.

I believe that God is becoming Man....not generic man with a little "m", but the New Creation Man, which is the the combination of heaven and earth.

Just like water is the third result of the combining of the two gases (spirits) of hydrogen and oxygen.....something brand new emerges from this union.

It has been said, that the Greeks believed that earth was a springboard to heaven.

But

The Hebrews believed that heaven was a springboard to earth.

"I John saw the New Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God as a bride adorned for her husband;
Then I heard a mighty voice from the throne..See!
The abode of God is with men, and He will live (encamp) among them and they shall be his people and God shall personally be their God." Rev. 21

Love and blessings,
Karen

Truth, the Non-transferable Ticket

"Truth is a non-transferable ticket which only bears one name."

I asked myself one time how much truth did I KNOW by experience and how much was second hand....or passed down revelations of another. The answer was a rather scary one to face. It made me to understand a little clearer the cry of Paul's heart, "That I may know Him (experientially)."

Revelation has been a wonderful thing to us, for it has expanded our visional horizons, but, revelation is only the image of a truth. It is like the label on the bottle that says w-a-t-e-r. You can't drink the label.....it is what is in the bottle that we want to experience.

I was so thrilled with this word when I was first hearing it. I walked in the thrill of it for some time. It even caused me flee Babylon's walls. I lived on each new tape and new piece of literature I could get hold of at that time, but as all thrills go, they soon fade and like the maiden in Song of Solomon she cannot be satisfied to just talk about the beauty of her lover, the altogether lovely one, the chief among ten thousand to her soul.....she must find him, she must be with him so they may consumate their love, "Make haste, my beloved, and come quickly, like a gazelle or a young hart [take me to our waiting home] upon the mountain of spices! SoS 8:14. AMP

I am finding deeper and deeper longings in me to experience my truth, my God, and my godself, are you not?

Our Beloved Draws Us
Karen

The Page

from 'The Page'
by George Hawtin (one of our pioneers of the the good news gospel who has passed on to glory)

We have not yet witnessed the magnitude of ministry that shall be revealed through the manifested sons of God. God is preparing His perfected and mature body, anointed with the fullness of the seven-fold Spirit of God, and this enChristed company shall appear on the cosmic stage of history in these last days with ten thousand times more power than a Moses, a Joshua, a Samuel, a David, an Elijah, a Peter, a Paul, a St. Patrick, a Wesley, a Whitefield, a Finney, or any of the mighty ministries of this century. God has moved deeply upon my heart in these days to prophesy to God's elect that there is coming a great and glorious MANIFESTATION OF CHRIST before the face of all nations and the whole earth. There will be a fresh and universal revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ. It's going to come in the midst of a people who truly "love His appearing," and I see and hear signs that already He is beginning to come. We are standing on the threshold of a new and fresh and transcendental manifestation of the Lord. These things are burning like a furnace inside of me. I am being quickened by these things. I know God is on the move, and my deepest desire is to be a part of this manifestation that will usher in a new day for this sin-cursed planet. The Lord wants to reveal Himself in our midst in a new way, and through us to creation. I am asking God to unveil and manifest Himself to me in these days in a fuller way. Oh God! do a new thing.

The whole earth and all creation is waiting for the glory of the Lord to be manifested. The dealings of God in your life and mine are fraught with divine purpose. There is something far greater ahead of us than walking on streets of gold or flitting about in white night gowns strumming harps. This was the mentality instilled into me as a young man. Thank God there is a heaven, but I want to tell you something. All the dealings of God toward us - the cross, the suffering, the processings, the blessings, the glory - all are intended to put something of His nature and character into US. This working will enable Him to be made manifest in this old dark world in which we live. God has purposed that righteousness and glory shine forth before all nations. This is going to be done through those who are being transformed into the likeness of His Son. Then the glory of the Lord shall be revealed from the living, completed temple of His body. His glory shall fill the earth. His power will shake the nations and all nations shall come and worship before HIM. The harvest of this age shall be gathered.

With a heart of understanding and a spirit bright with the hope of God's eonian purpose the apostle penned these meaningful words, "...it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by His grace, to REVEAL HIS SON I-N ME" (Gal. 1:15-16). As one has written, "Let us open our hearts that God may speak to us and show us what a son of God really is, for the greater works (Jn. 14:12) of which Jesus spoke are not to be performed by ordinary believers, but by THAT VAST FAMILY OF SONS who are now nearing the hour of manifestation. They are that chosen company, selected from many ages, who through fires and furnaces of affliction have been brought into that same glorious IMAGE OF JESUS CHRIST. These sons of God are LIKE HIM. They are EXACTLY like Him. They are IN HIS IMAGE (Rom. 8:29). They are IN HIS IMAGE AND AFTER HIS LIKENESS. They are so completely SONS OF GOD, and so completely LIKE HIM, so completely BORN OF HIM, so completely OF HIS MIND and WILL and PURPOSE their one difference is that He (the blessed Jesus) IS THE ELDEST IN THAT VAST FAMILY OF SONS and they with Him are the LAST ADAM IN ALL HIS COMPLETENESS" - The Page.

Plowing In Curried Lotus Fields

(The above title borrowed from our friend Ron)

Hi Ron, one of my explorations into the curried lotus fields found me reading Sri Aurobindo and his epic poem Savitri about 7 years ago. I find some of the lines of this poem profound - there are are only over 23,000 of them!

He was born in India but taken to England as as child and schooled there for a number of years before returning to India where he became head of a College, proficient poet, involved in the government protest and was jailed. I believe it was there that he spent 4 years in "yoga", discovering his union with God.

He was not just interested in Nirvana - a dissolution into the 'void' but believed we were to bring our union or yogic connection with the Divine - our heaven into our earth [paraphrasing in my words]

Sri Aurobindo began his practice of Yoga in 1904. At first gathering into it the essential elements of spiritual experience that are gained by the paths of divine communion and spiritual realisation followed till now in India, he passed on in search of a more complete experience uniting and harmonising the two ends of existence, Spirit and Matter. Most ways of Yoga are paths to the Beyond leading to the Spirit and, in the end, away from life; Sri Aurobindo's rises to the Spirit to redescend with its gains bringing the light and power and bliss of the Spirit into life to transform it. Man's present existence in the material world is in this view or vision of things a life in the Ignorance with the In- conscient at its base, but even in its darkness and nescience there are involved the presence and possibilities of the Divine. The created world is not a mistake or a vanity and illusion to be cast aside by the soul returning to heaven or Nirvana, but the scene of a spiritual evolution by which out of this material inconscience is to be manifested progressively the Divine Consciousness in things. Mind is the highest term yet reached in the evolution, but it is not the highest of which it is capable. There is above it a Supermind or eternal Truth-Consciousness which is in its nature the self-aware and self-determining light and power of a Divine Knowledge. Mind is an ignorance seeking after Truth, but this is a self-existent Knowledge harmoniously manifesting the play of its forms and forces. It is only by the descent of this Supermind that the perfection dreamed of by all that is highest in humanity can come. It is possible by opening to a greater divine consciousness to rise to this power of light and bliss, discover one's true self, remain in constant union with the Divine and bring down the supramental Force for the transformation of mind and life and body. To realise this possibility has been the dynamic aim of Sri Aurobindo's Yoga.

Sri Aurobindo left his body on December 5, 1950

Just a few lines from Savitri:

We shall shed the discredit of our mortal state,
Make the abysm a road for Heaven's descent,
Acquaint our depths with the supernal Ray
And cleave the darkness with the mystic Fire.

The Oil Doesn't Go Where The Blood Hasn't Been

THEY are only CREATED when (HE SENDS HIS SPIRIT) follow this...

John 7:39 But this spake He of THE SPIRIT , which they that believe on him should receive: for THE HOLY GHOST was NOT GIVEN; because that Jesus was not yet glorified. This follows the same patern set in Genesis.

When He sends His Spirit

Psalm 104:30 THOU **sendest forth** THY SPIRIT , THEY are CREATED: and thou ~renewest~ the ~face of~ the earth. (ALL THINGS NEW) inward man RENEWED

HE DOES

John 20:22 when he had said this, HE BREATHED on THEM, and saith unto them, ~Receive ye~ THE HOLY GHOST:

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In the OT the priest was anointed with blood upon the lobe of his right ear (consecrating his hearing), upon the thumb of his right hand (consecrating all his actions)and upon the big toe of his right foot (conscrating his walk) Lev. 14:14

But

then after the blood, the anointing oil was placed again on these three parts.

For

The Oil doesn't go where the Blood hasn't been. The blood consecrates or set you apart unto Him, but the Oil (anointing) empowers you to fulfill your consecration.

John said that the spirit was not yet given, because Jesus had not yet been glorified.

The Oil of the glorified Christ Jesus from the heavens (Holy Ghost outpouring) could not yet be given until the Blood of His Life was first offered in the heavenly Holy of Holies. "I must go away or the Comforter will not come" - the oil cannot go where the blood has not first been.

Heb. 9
"He went once for all into the [Holy of] Holies [of heaven], not by virtue of the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood, having found and secured a complete redemption - an everlasting release for us.

In fact, under the Law almost everything is purified by means of blood, and without the shedding of blood there is neither release from sin and its guilt nor the remisson, the due and merited punishment for sins.

By such means therefore it was necessary for the earthly copies of the heavenly things to be purified, but the actual heavenly things themselves required far better and nobler sacrifices."

How Our Beliefs Shape Our Experiences

How Our Beliefs Shape Our Experiences
All external reality is formed or shaped by internal reality. "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made....." and

"And God said....let there be and there was" and another

"Jesus, was the express image of the invisible God".

From inner to outer, from heaven into earth, from spirit into form. When man begins to understand how he forms and shapes his reality or his outer world, and that it is not just imposed upon him by a God outside of himself, but by the God that he gives his credence to within himself, it really is a bit of a scary realization....sobering at least to understand that we are responsible for "our" world.

If Jesus said that we are the Light of the World and we also know that God is Light, then do you think that Jesus was saying "You are the God of the World"? But if our light be darkness (unconsciousness) then our outer creations will be too. We will be creating unconsconsciously and feel victimized by God. And what we create is what most of us have been programmed with by society, religion and culture. We have been vaccinated, as it were, against finding our own power and taking our place as a co-creator with God. We then look at this world with all of its outer creations of sin, sickness, and lack and say, "See this outer realm proves that faith doesn't work." But we have failed to see that this outer world has been formed by the creations of our internal beliefs. ( I am speaking also of mass beliefs too, collective consciousness)

So, if you take what is not truth and try to use it as your validation against faith, you have based your belief on what has orginated from a false belief or identity to start with.

"God said, Let there be and there was", But before speech is thought or intention. There is first a Thinker, then a thought and then an action.

The thinker= The Father, what fathers the thought, (father means "starter", so where does this thought have its starting point)
The thought=The Son, the thought expressed or spoken forth
The action=what is birthed from this thought into manifestation.

We just "think" that thoughts are just little insignificant birds flying through our heavens or minds and do not realize that they are the building blocks of our You-niverse.

Thoughts are actually electro-magnetic energy. When you think, you are moving subtle energy into a pattern, you are imaging. This body of ours is electrical. We do not realize how much our inner dialogue most of the time is imaging us less than what spirit says we are. And I don't think that maybe we realize that these images formed over and over in our minds, most of the time quite unconsciously, or even subsconsciously after years of old programming, is continually fleshing themselves out in our world as our lack in some form.

Please know, that I am myself, putting on these new garments, and I know that most are all in transitions. Where we have been has not fulfilled the longings and desires that we just KNOW has to exist. We have to drink deeply of some new wine, and we all know that the New Covenant was not just the New Testament writings but the New Covenant is the one written on the heart. We have got to find what is written in our Book of Life....what New Wine is there for the people of this day and this time.

I believe this was all in the plan of God to let us experience creating (six days shall you labor) but this seventh day that we are entering is a Rest. So for six days (1000 year days) man, using his God-given power to think and choose, has chosen things like war, and hate and prejudice etc. These things have served as mirrors to us. We get to look into an outer creation that reflects back to us what we have projected from within. I believe all this has had purpose. Remember it says "That God's word does not return void." I believe we each are A word of God that makes up The Word of God, just like we each are a cell that makes up the Christ Body....many but One. I believe that we each are "a word" that has been made flesh. We each are the intention of our Father.

So this past six day experience of man since Adam has brought some people to an awakening....a turn-around...a repentance. THIS IS NOT WORKING, THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING BETTER!!! So upon finding out that WE have been our own devil or when the Divine get ill, a little play on words (dev-ill), we get to choose again. But this time, we do it CONSCIOUSLY. WE DO NOT RETURN VOID!! We are no longer unconscious but conscious that we are One with our Creator and endowed with his Love and Power to be the Turn-Around-People. Corporately this Conscious People get to be the Light that shines dispelling mans belief that he is less than his Father's Son, but in fact is in his very image and bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh.

I feel when Jesus said "It is finished" on the cross....he was saying that HIS walk was finished for even in Hebrews it says he has entered in as a forerunner for us. So we have some running of our own to do if he is the forerunner of this corporate Body. So I guess to sum all this up, I am trying to say we really need to wake up to HOW....I think we have had WHAT down pretty good, but have we known HOW to put our truth into reality? Teach us once more our Father.

With love,
Karen

PS. I wrote the above about 5 years ago as I was embracing these thoughts but I feel like I would like to add something to this.

When new truth is presented to us and we accept it with our conscious minds, or our surface mind, this will not automatically exempt you from the need to have this truth written in your inner man. It is at the subconscious level where we continue to act and react from. The "new program" will have to be downloaded here for there to be any real change in our lives.

The ego, or surface mind, can revel in and delight in new truth and if we are not aware, we may find ourselves having just another form of godliness that denies the power therof. We may just be exchanging one belief system for another one and not be aware of the wiles of the ego. It is not just our old understandings of Christianty that can fall into this trap, but any new thought can as well.

"And God blessed them, and said to them, Be fruitful, multiply, and FILL THE EARTH and SUBDUE IT and have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and over every living creature that moves upon the earth." Gen. 1

"Dominion over the fish of the sea" - this is the subconscious realm….what swims beneath conscious knowing. This is where all the false programming resides and it is the “brightness of his appearing” that reveals and destroys it.

"Dominion over the birds of the air” – this is the conscious thought realm or what we consciously think about and invest our thoughts into and give validation to.

Dominion over all the beasts” – what has not been “tamed” in our flesh to be an obedient servant of the Lord. [remember Jesus rode the ‘ass’ into Jerusalem.] God has need of your flesh when it is tamed.

"And dominion over all the earth" – dominion over everything in us, spirit, soul and body.

And then there is our greatest of patterns, our High Priest, Jesus Christ, who himself being made perfect [mature] became the Pioneer of our salvation.

“And his completed experience making him perfect in equipment, He became the Author and Source of eternal salvation to all those who give heed and obey Him.” Heb. 5:9

Hope Beyond Hell

Love Never Fails!....all else will fail.

sin will fail
unbelief will fail
doubts will fail
sickness will fail
death will fail
even hell will fail!...it gets cast into the Lake of God consuming fire!

The following is really a very thorough and well researched work (book) done by this brother Gerry Beauchemin on the reconciliation of all. He makes it free as a download or on an offering basis if you want the actual book.

http://hopebeyondhell.org/

The Four Winds

"They shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." Matt. 24: 30

I believe these "four winds" are speaking of four different orders, realms or eons that we are passing through in this day. Some are still in the first principles of the gospel, others are coming into the light of the kingdom, others are already tasting of the judgements of God that brings them into a totally NEW CREATION. 2 Cor. 5:17

We see the "Elect Company" fly like an angel in the midst of heaven, having the Eonian Gospel, the Age-Lasting Gospel, to preach to them upon the earth. They have a cleansing, message of deliverance.

Rev. 14:6
"Then I saw another angel flying in mid-air, with an eternal Gospel (good news) to tell to the inhabitants of the earth, to every race and tribe and language and people.
And he cried with a mighty voice, Revere God and give Him glory, for the hour of His judgment has arrived. Fall down before Him; pay Him homage and adoration and worship Him Who created heaven and earth, the sea and the springs (fountains) of water."

quote from Dora Van Assen

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"I am the Source of the Wind from the New Heaven that now restructures the human world. It is for these times, for my times, that you have been created and that you have come into the Earth with your talents, your resources, your credibility and your human influence. Use your gifts now, without reservation, to serve the purposes of love. Experience in return the gift that I give to all who love, a share in my own consciousness. Those who best understand these times are those who are offering the greatest healing and blessing into them. Let your earthly agreements echo the spirit of my sacred human song. Let your heart be open to the love that I freely share through you. The time for the greater works is at hand.

During these last few years before the Truth is obvious to all, have mercy on those who retreat into the old order of fear. Do not attack and condemn them. Many of them would accept the ways of love, revise the policies of their enterprises, alter the course of nations, were it not for the constant condemnation of the so-called righteous. Those who attack are part of the problem, not part of the solution. There are evils in the world wherever fear is honored as a god, but attack will not change them. Those who attack - if they persist - become what they criticize.

Do not try to change anyone externally, attacking behavior, though you may see clearly that it needs to change. That is the old approach, the very cause of warfare. Share your own experiences. Tell your own story. Share the wonder, the joy, the excitement, the benefits that you have come to know in the service to the Presence that is rising on the Earth. If ever my Spirit stirs, even momentarily, the seed is sown. Your words may be forgotten, but the Spirit of your words will live on.

Those whom you encounter, aye even those you merely brush past, will go back to their habits altered, more open to love, to the Eternal Love, that continues to rise. This is what is means to have a mission inside of time, preparing the way of the Lord.

quote from Ken Carey in his book Vision

The Spirit of the Law

If Jesus is indeed our Pattern and served as the prototype of the completed composite New Creation Man, then we, too, will be fulfilling the law... the spirit of the law, if Jesus is the pattern and prototype by which we are fashioned. Once an inventor gets his prototype finished just as he intends it, he can begin to mass produce his product by the pattern.

Jesus fulfilled it in the letter by becoming the actual, literal sacrifice, and also by becoming the scapegoat, driven by the Spirit into the wilderness for 40 days. Those 40 days are symbolic of our (the churches')past 40 Jubilee period, Jubilees which were proclaimed in the Law every 49th year and observed in the 50th. They were complete sabbath rests for the people and the land. [this speaks of spirit, soul and body salvation...our bodies are the promised land....we are to have renewed minds AND bodies]

Israel wandered in the wilderness a year for every day that they had spied out the promised land, the promised land that they could not by faith be persuaded to rise up and take. We all know that was 40 years. It only took a day to get them out of Egypt, but it took 40 years to get Egypt out of them.

Jesus, also patterned the scapegoat [the scapegoat is the "Living Sacrifice", the one not killed] when he was driven into the wilderness for 40 days....each of those days represented a Jubliee cycle.

40x50= 2000years

So, the church was driven into her wilderness (by the hand of a "fit man" the OT describes it and Jesus fulfills it by saying he was driven into the wilderness by the Spirit) and she has very much been involved in learning to keep the spirit [not letter] of this law these past 2000 years. She has been learning to overcome the devil (ego or carnal mind) as Jesus did in his wilderness experience and finding her Sabbath Rest in Him.

So, I see us fulfilling everything that Jesus did in the Law of Moses, the prophets and the Psalms as he taught the disciples in Luke 24 :44. He immediately went on to say after that statement:
"Thus it is written, that the Christ, should suffer and on the third day rise from (among) the dead."


If we are included as his Body in that third day rising at this time, then we are also included in the fulfillment of the rest of that passage, as I see it. But please know I am speaking of the spirit fulfillment, not the letter.

There were two goats, one killed as a sacrifice, the other one lived.

There are two appearings of the Lord...one as Jesus the singular Christ who was literally crucified
&
His Body the second, the one that has presented itself a living sacrifice.....we die (to self) while walking around on two feet. (that's why we have "blessed" feet.)

So, I think we all are saying the same thing ....according to how we each refract the light.

Love and blessings to all,
Karen

Dead in the Coals of Fire

I would like to make a comment on something that you have said Steven.

"As we daily die to the carnal mind we let go of all paradigms and ideas of God and stand dead in the coals of fire."

That reverberates through me.

When Israel was invited to come up the mountain and meet with God, they refused and said "let not God speak to us lest we die." You can't get in the Presence of Consuming Fire(God) without the "flesh" getting burned or consumed. Paul said that he died daily for he was listening to God daily.

"No man can see God and live"...no carnal man that is. Carnality cannot live in the Fire.

And the converse is true as well....
"No man can see God and die.".....You can't stand in the Presence of Eternal Life and find death to be your reality.

Thank you and God Bless,
Karen

Coming Out of the Closet

Jenny quoted:

Adam decided he'd rather be in hell with Eve than in heaven without her.

Yes, Jenny, "For this reason shall a man leave Father and Mother and be joined to his wife."

The very reason that Jesus came here...he left the celestials, took on the form of mankind in the terrestials, to join himself to his wife, the soul of every man. And out this union would be born the mature Son of God bringing us into spirit, soul and body salvation.

And also just as Adam was not deceived in partaking of the forbidden fruit, but willingly partook, he patterns the love of Jesus or the Love of Spirit towards us.
"Lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world".

Love journeys with us unto the end of our, many-times, mis-managed world. And when we come to the end of our world, all that is left is his world and Love's perfect union, the holy conception.

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Loved the poem, Ron!

"to be part of the
different thing...
God's shocking, unorthodox,
unheard of Thing
to further heaven's hopes
and summon God's glory."

"That holy THING that will be born of thee, will be called the Son of God".

One translation say the Holy Thing that shall be generated from you.

Talk about "coming out of the closet".

This THING is not to be a "within" in-wombed Thing forever.
Hallelujah, but to "further heaven's hopes and summon God's glory" is being born/generated.

With love,
Karen